Romi u ukrajinskom ratu: izbeglice druge klase

nasmejase me, ovi se sami paraziti...hoce da rade, ali da ne rade...letimm previse toplo, a zimi prehladno
Da tebe pod stražom vežu lepljivom trakom za drvo ili saobraćajni znak, oboje ti lice zeleno, pa ti spuste pantalone da bi mogao da te šiba, kaišem ili pravim bičem ako ima, svako ko ima svojih frustracija ili sadističkih sklonosti drugu bi pesmu pevao.

To je inače ukrajinski narodni običaj.
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Members of the C14 far right group, some of them wearing balaclavas, march toward an Russian orthodox church in Kiev, Ukraine. (File photo, April 20, 2018) © AP Photo/Felipe Dana

On October 17 around 50 far-right radicals, some carrying flaming torches, went door to door in the Ukrainian city of Irpin, near Kyiv, chanting hateful slogans and calling for violence against local Roma residents. The mob spray-painted hate speech comments on the fence of one Roma family’s house.

The march was apparently a response to a reported attack on a man two days earlier, allegedly by two Roma teenagers. Police observed the march but did not intervene. Several city officials, including the mayor, refused to condemn the mob’s hate speech and threats, but acknowledged it “scared Roma [people]” and “made them hide in their homes.”

One Irpin police official referred to the march as a “peaceful gathering.” Did he know that at least one of the leaders of Ukrainian right-wing paramilitary group C14 was among those marching? In 2018, C14 members chased women and small children with rocks and pepper spray, after burning down their tents in an attack on a Roma settlement in Kyiv, but the attackers walked free. Another attack, carried out by a different far-right group near Lviv in 2018, resulted in the death of one person and injuries to several others, including a child.
The October march has sparked a wave of online hate speech against the Roma community in several Ukrainian cities, according to Roma activist Anzhelika Bielova. Bielova recently told me that her friends and colleagues have also received threats. Additionally, one Irpin lawmakerwho spoke out against hate speech towards Roma people has become a victim of online attacks.

Bielova herself was stabbed by an assailant in her apartment building in 2019. Although the attacker’s motives have not been established, Bielova’s colleagues suspect it was retaliation for her activism. “What frightens me is that we don’t understand when hate speech ... can turn into hate crimes,” Bielova said.

Roma people in Ukraine often face violence, but official investigations rarely produce outcomes. No one has been held accountable for the 2017 murder of Mykola Kaspitsky, leader of Roma community in Kharkiv region. Earlier this year, the case was closed for the fourth time, over concerns that police were attempting to sabotage it.

Ukraine should work to end discrimination against Roma people and ensure that crimes and calls for violence against them are thoroughly investigated.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/11/29/radicals-target-roma-people-ukraine

@dlugomir @kiriku1 @Cosmopolite
 
Da tebe pod stražom vežu lepljivom trakom za drvo ili saobraćajni znak, oboje ti lice zeleno, pa ti spuste pantalone da bi mogao da te šiba, kaišem ili pravim bičem ako ima, svako ko ima svojih frustracija ili sadističkih sklonosti drugu bi pesmu pevao.

To je inače ukrajinski narodni običaj.
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za pocetak, odavno bih pobegao iz Ukrajine...tako, da ne bih bio u toj prici...trazio bih azil u nekoj zapadnoj drzavi...socijalizovao bih se i uklopio u tamosnje drustvo...naucio neki zanat i zaposlio bih se...ne bih lose ziveo
 
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Members of the C14 far right group, some of them wearing balaclavas, march toward an Russian orthodox church in Kiev, Ukraine. (File photo, April 20, 2018) © AP Photo/Felipe Dana

On October 17 around 50 far-right radicals, some carrying flaming torches, went door to door in the Ukrainian city of Irpin, near Kyiv, chanting hateful slogans and calling for violence against local Roma residents. The mob spray-painted hate speech comments on the fence of one Roma family’s house.

The march was apparently a response to a reported attack on a man two days earlier, allegedly by two Roma teenagers. Police observed the march but did not intervene. Several city officials, including the mayor, refused to condemn the mob’s hate speech and threats, but acknowledged it “scared Roma [people]” and “made them hide in their homes.”

One Irpin police official referred to the march as a “peaceful gathering.” Did he know that at least one of the leaders of Ukrainian right-wing paramilitary group C14 was among those marching? In 2018, C14 members chased women and small children with rocks and pepper spray, after burning down their tents in an attack on a Roma settlement in Kyiv, but the attackers walked free. Another attack, carried out by a different far-right group near Lviv in 2018, resulted in the death of one person and injuries to several others, including a child.
The October march has sparked a wave of online hate speech against the Roma community in several Ukrainian cities, according to Roma activist Anzhelika Bielova. Bielova recently told me that her friends and colleagues have also received threats. Additionally, one Irpin lawmakerwho spoke out against hate speech towards Roma people has become a victim of online attacks.

Bielova herself was stabbed by an assailant in her apartment building in 2019. Although the attacker’s motives have not been established, Bielova’s colleagues suspect it was retaliation for her activism. “What frightens me is that we don’t understand when hate speech ... can turn into hate crimes,” Bielova said.

Roma people in Ukraine often face violence, but official investigations rarely produce outcomes. No one has been held accountable for the 2017 murder of Mykola Kaspitsky, leader of Roma community in Kharkiv region. Earlier this year, the case was closed for the fourth time, over concerns that police were attempting to sabotage it.

Ukraine should work to end discrimination against Roma people and ensure that crimes and calls for violence against them are thoroughly investigated.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/11/29/radicals-target-roma-people-ukraine

@dlugomir @kiriku1 @Cosmopolite
To nije država, nego neka paravojna postrojba.

I koga boli qratz za ciganske lopove?

Ukrajinci se herojski bore za domovinu, a ovaj klatež krade i radi svaku svinjariju koju može.

I njih i ljuckopravaše šupirati sve u Rusiju, pa neka se Rujke s njima zay....
 
To nije država, nego neka paravojna postrojba.

I koga boli qratz za ciganske lopove?

Ukrajinci se herojski bore za domovinu, a ovaj klatež krade i radi svaku svinjariju koju može.

I njih i ljuckopravaše šupirati sve u Rusiju, pa neka se Rujke s njima zay....
sve te Rome, poslati u Hrvatsku i dati im azil...uglavnom ih smestiti negde nas primorju, gde je toplo, tu bi mogli da se bave raznim biznisima i tako podignu BDP Hrvatske...verujem da bi Hrvatska procvetala sa ovim azilantima, a onda dodati i jedno milion azilanata iz Bangladesa...tako bi multietnicka Hrvatska, bila primer za suzivot raznih naroda u svetu..Hrvatska bi bila nova Amerika...ovde mislim na Ameriku iz 18 veka, gde se kolju razni Indijanci, Meksikanci, belci i ostali robijasi
 

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