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JankoTheGreat

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Afrin: U operaciji ”Maslinova grana” od terorista oslobođeno brdo od historijske važnosti

TSK i FSA od terorista YPG/PKK-ISIS oslobodili su brdo Nebi Huri koje pripada području Sharran, na sjeveru Afrin

Oružane snage Turske (TSK) i Slobodna vojska Sirije (FSA) u okviru operacije ”Maslinova grana” od terorista su oslobodili brdo Nebi Huri, koje je od historijske važnosti.

Reporter AA s terena javlja kako su TSK i FSA od terorista YPG/PKK-ISIS oslobodili brdo Nebi Huri koje pripada području Sharran, na sjeveru Afrina.

Na pomenutom brdu nalazi se tvrđava, most i ostaci koji se vežu za rimski period.

Turske snage su od početka operacije "Maslinova grana" pokrenute 20. januara u Afrinu oslobodile ukupno 73 tačke, uključujući jedan centar grada, 53 sela i 19 strateški važnih planina i brda

http://www.trt.net.tr/bosanski/turska-1/2018/02/19/afrin-u-operaciji-maslinova-grana-od-terorista-oslobodeno-brdo-od-historijske-vaznosti-913516
 

marsijaner

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SAA kod Abu Kamala u iznenadnom problemu.
Rovovi i tranšeje poplavljani - naftom.
Kopali rov, iskopali naftu.
Samo mi pada jedna misao na pamet:
Što luđi seljak, to veći krompir:super:

Ameri će dobiti srčani udar.

UHHHH sada me ti podseti kako je nekada veliki vodja , nalazio naftu na poljima pozarevca ..

tamo je bilo zabranjeno zenama sa stiklama da hodaju po poljima , oma bi iz rupa sikljala nafta,
 

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zanimljivo , nego dal neko mozda i zna , sta je ono sakriveno tj pokriveno kod kamiona crvene boje koji SLEPA , KOMPLET KAMION A IMA POKRIVKU.
Смерч!

У колони су редом:
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...није страшно, али има пуно колона у познатом правцу :)
 

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Смерч!

У колони су редом:
1 Т-72
2 Т-55
1 ЗПУ-4 (4 цевке по 14,5мм)
1 Смерч
1 Точка
1 противавионац на Камазу
3 БМП
1 ЗУ-23 (две цеви)
6 БМП
1 ЗУ-23 (две цеви)
...није страшно, али има пуно колона у познатом правцу :)
e fala za informacije , duduk sam za prepoznavanje oruzja.
 

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na rt.com

stoji ova obavest , da su se kurdi dogovorili sa Asadom

Pro-government Syrian forces are expected to enter Afrin enclave “within hours,” local media report. Earlier, an adviser to the Kurdish administration said a deal has been reached to allow Syrian forces into the embattled area.
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Syria’s pro-government popular forces will enter Afrin“within hours” to support the locals “in facing the aggression” from Turkey, SANA state news agency reported on Monday, citing its correspondent in Aleppo. Syrian broadcaster al-Ikhbariya TV, also citing own reporter, said that Assad-loyal forces will arrive in the area shortly.

The reports follow the claim by the Kurdish official that the deal was reached between Damascus and the Kurdish People Protection Units (YPG) fighters. The negotiations were reportedly aimed at getting help from the Syrian government to repel the ongoing Turkish offensive on the Kurdish-held enclave of Afrin.

On Sunday Reuters citied Badran Jia Kurd, an adviser to the Kurdish self-government, as saying that the military assistance agreement had been reached. Jia Kurd noted that the deal, which could see Syrian forces enter Afrin within two days, will be limited exclusively to immediate military support.

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Kurds dance during a protest against the Turkish attacks on Afrin in Qamishli, Syria January 30, 2018 © Rodi SaidKurds wanted Syrian army to enter Afrin, but deal failed – sources
“When it comes to the political and administrative matters in the region, it will be agreed upon with Damascus in the later stages through direct negotiations and discussions,” he said. Officially, Damascus has not spoken out on the possible agreement, and the YPG’s spokesman confirmed only that a request had been made for Syrian forces to protect Afrin.

Even if a deal came into force it would still rest on shaky foundations, Jia Kurd admitted. He said it was hard to predict how long the deal would hold, since it does not sit well with either side.

“We don’t know to what extent these understandings will last because there are sides that are not satisfied and want to make (them) fail,” he said without elaborating.

It comes just a few days after media reports indicated there were negotiations between Kurdish militias and the Syrian government, which had stalled. The Syrian government reportedly withdrew from the talks after Kurds refused to lay down their weapons in return for military assistance, an RT Arabic correspondent reported on Thursday, citing a military source. Several other networks, including Arab TV network Al Mayadeen and Sputnik, ran reports based on their own sources saying that the deal had been secured, without providing any details of the conditions.

Speculation about a more active role for Damascus in the Afrin confrontation arose back in January, when the Kurdish self-administration urged Damascus to protect Syrian sovereignty by sending troops to Afrin. Last Monday, YPG commander Sipan Hamo said that he would have “no problem” with the Syrian Army intervening in the conflict to drive away the Turkish forces.

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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in Ankara, Turkey, February 16, 2018 © Cem OzdelTillerson in Ankara pledges limited weapon supplies to SDF, says Manbij ‘priority’ in Syria
Turkey, which has been carrying out Operation Olive Branch in Afrin since January 20, insists that the offensive is solely aimed at wiping out terrorists, denying allegations that it has targeted civilians.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also vowed to return the enclave to its “original owner” after it is “liberated” from YPG.

The offensive will allow some 500,000 displaced Syrians to return to their homes in Afrin, Turkey’s first lady Emine Erdogan said on Friday, claiming that “the aim of this operation is to ensure safety in the region.”

President Erdogan has repeatedly indicated he would like to expand the operation further and move into Manbij, where US forces supporting the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are stationed; this has raised fears of a potential clash between the two NATO allies. At a recent meeting in Ankara, US Secretary Rex Tillerson and Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu agreed that the bilateral relations were at “a crisis point,” calling the situation around Manbij a “priority” that needed to be addressed urgently. Turkey also touted the idea of a joint US and Turkey deployment in the area, on condition that the US guarantees a prompt withdrawal of the Kurdish YPG forces.
 
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Јанко шта је ово, Турци су се уплашили могуће интервенције одважних бригада Сиријске Арапске Армије. Одмах се жале Русима.

The Turkish leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said in a phone call with Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, that Damascus would face consequences if it struck a deal with the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG) and said the Afrin operation would continue, CNN Turk reported.

Turkey launched a military campaign in Afrin last month, in an effort to drive out Kurdish militias. The enclave is under the control of the Democratic Union party (PYD) and the YPG, partners of the US-backed coalition against Islamic State.

But Turkey considers the YPG the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK), a designated terror group that has fought a decades-long insurgency against the Turkish state. A US announcement that it would build a 30,000-strong border force to patrol Syria’s frontiers that included the YPG alarmed Ankara and led to the military campaign, dubbed “Operation Olive Branch” by the Turkish government.

“Now, will the regime enter there? If they do, what for? That is important,” said the Turkish foreign minister, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu. “If [the] regime enters to clear out the PKK [and] YPG then there is no problem. If they are entering [Afrin] to provide protection to the YPG, then no one can stop Turkey or Turkish soldiers.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/19/turkey-warns-assad-not-intervene-kurdish-enclave-afrin
 

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Јанко шта је ово, Турци су се уплашили могуће интервенције одважних бригада Сиријске Арапске Армије. Одмах се жале Русима.

The Turkish leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said in a phone call with Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, that Damascus would face consequences if it struck a deal with the Kurdish-led People’s Protection Units (YPG) and said the Afrin operation would continue, CNN Turk reported.

Turkey launched a military campaign in Afrin last month, in an effort to drive out Kurdish militias. The enclave is under the control of the Democratic Union party (PYD) and the YPG, partners of the US-backed coalition against Islamic State.

But Turkey considers the YPG the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK), a designated terror group that has fought a decades-long insurgency against the Turkish state. A US announcement that it would build a 30,000-strong border force to patrol Syria’s frontiers that included the YPG alarmed Ankara and led to the military campaign, dubbed “Operation Olive Branch” by the Turkish government.

“Now, will the regime enter there? If they do, what for? That is important,” said the Turkish foreign minister, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu. “If [the] regime enters to clear out the PKK [and] YPG then there is no problem. If they are entering [Afrin] to provide protection to the YPG, then no one can stop Turkey or Turkish soldiers.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/19/turkey-warns-assad-not-intervene-kurdish-enclave-afrin
Nista od toga. Turci sire svoje granice. Ovako ce gurati i na Balkanu. Mic po mic
 

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Да, рекло би се да тако успешне и агресивне државе имају и неке конкретне резултате, а ни не морају да се жале и на коленима моле Москву да их спасе, хаха, Башара ел-Асада.

Срамота.
Politika. Nije sve ni u pukoj snazi
 

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Рачунају да ће брзо потрошити "зелене", а онда они морају да крваре гyзицe...а Балкан далеко, далеко...црна рупа.
Zelenih ima na tone.

Turkish-backed rebels score big advance in northern Afrin – map


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BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:15 P.M.) – For the third time in the last 72 hours, the Turkish-backed rebels have managed to seize several areas from the Kurdish-led YPG forces in the Afrin region.

Led by the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the Turkish-backed rebels managed to impose fire control over the strategic town of Rajou this afternoon, following an intense battle with the YPG forces.

n addition to their advance at Rajou in northwest Afrin, the Turkish-backed rebels also scored a big advance in the southern countryside of this region, seizing a number of areas at the Jandaris axis.

The Turkish-backed rebels are now attempting to clear the last towns under YPG control near Jandaris.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-backed-rebels-score-big-advance-northern-afrin-map/
 

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Ako u narednih 7 dana ne dogovore sa Damaskom, Afrinska enklava ce biti deo tuzne kurdske istorije
Imaju izbor. Turke ili uvaženog Bašara.
Neće da predaju oružje SAA. SAA im omogućava da ga zadrže.
Kao vojnici svoje države. Mogu da idu i na Gutu ako žele sa oružjem.
Ako nećeš da budeš sirijski vojnik, šta će ti oružje.
Logično i ispravno.

A oni bi da SAA uđe između njih i Turaka i krvavi za njihovu ''državu'', a oni da se bahate po Afrinu, nargilaju marijuanu i češu mooda.

Verovatno neće da se integrišu u SAA pod pritiskom onih koji su sve i zakuvali - USA.
Ali verujem a će ih Erdogan dozvati pameti. Samo je pitanje koliko će ih izginuti dok shvate da ih Amerikanci koriste kao topovsko meso.
 
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vesti da sirijski avioni , neprekidno , salju bomnbonice , ovima isisOVCIMA

BEIRUT, LEBANON (4:02 P.M.) – Syrian warplanes have carried out a massive air assault against militant defenses across rebel-held areas of east Damascus, delivering dozens of airstrikes within a matter of hours.

According to military-affiliated sources, the Syrian Air Force has kicked-off large scale operations over the skies of East Ghouta. So far, Sunday has witnessed Syrian jets hit militants with thirty plus airstrikes.

Syrian warplanes reportedly struck militant tactical positions, gathering points and movements in and around the district towns of Shifounyah, Douma, Hamouriyah, Sakba and Masraba.

The bombing raids by Syrian airpower are being reinforced by non-stop rocket and howitzer shelling by artillery forces of the Syrian Army.

The heavy bombardment of militant defenses across East Ghouta comes as the Syrian Army is makes its final preparations for a massive ground offensive against armed rebel factions – to be the largest ever conducted within the vicinity of the Syrian capital – from multiple directions.

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Kao sto se i ocekivalo svaki sledeci predlog SAA ( CITAJ PUTINA ) Kurdima u Afrinu bice losiji za njih od prethodnog .

Uslovi za ulazak SAA u Afrin :



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I da ne bi bilo izlisnih pitanja oko toga kako ce Turska regovati :

CAVUSOGLU: IF SYRIA REGIME ENTERS AFRIN TO CLEAR PKK, NO PROB .

Kao sto sam pisao ranije .....

Turcima ovakav rasplet odgovara - jer umesto naoruzanih Kurda sa velikim ambicijama da prave probleme dobijaju na granici mnogo pozeljnije ,,komsije ,, .
Гледе тога... Турска би могла да гради насеља (макар и само својим новцем) од Африна до Еуфрата, да би тамо населила сиријске избеглице који би хтели назад у Сирију.
 

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stoji ova obavest , da su se kurdi dogovorili sa Asadom

Pro-government Syrian forces are expected to enter Afrin enclave “within hours,” local media report. Earlier, an adviser to the Kurdish administration said a deal has been reached to allow Syrian forces into the embattled area.
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Syria’s pro-government popular forces will enter Afrin“within hours” to support the locals “in facing the aggression” from Turkey, SANA state news agency reported on Monday, citing its correspondent in Aleppo. Syrian broadcaster al-Ikhbariya TV, also citing own reporter, said that Assad-loyal forces will arrive in the area shortly.

The reports follow the claim by the Kurdish official that the deal was reached between Damascus and the Kurdish People Protection Units (YPG) fighters. The negotiations were reportedly aimed at getting help from the Syrian government to repel the ongoing Turkish offensive on the Kurdish-held enclave of Afrin.

On Sunday Reuters citied Badran Jia Kurd, an adviser to the Kurdish self-government, as saying that the military assistance agreement had been reached. Jia Kurd noted that the deal, which could see Syrian forces enter Afrin within two days, will be limited exclusively to immediate military support.

Read more
Kurds dance during a protest against the Turkish attacks on Afrin in Qamishli, Syria January 30, 2018 © Rodi SaidKurds wanted Syrian army to enter Afrin, but deal failed – sources
“When it comes to the political and administrative matters in the region, it will be agreed upon with Damascus in the later stages through direct negotiations and discussions,” he said. Officially, Damascus has not spoken out on the possible agreement, and the YPG’s spokesman confirmed only that a request had been made for Syrian forces to protect Afrin.

Even if a deal came into force it would still rest on shaky foundations, Jia Kurd admitted. He said it was hard to predict how long the deal would hold, since it does not sit well with either side.

“We don’t know to what extent these understandings will last because there are sides that are not satisfied and want to make (them) fail,” he said without elaborating.

It comes just a few days after media reports indicated there were negotiations between Kurdish militias and the Syrian government, which had stalled. The Syrian government reportedly withdrew from the talks after Kurds refused to lay down their weapons in return for military assistance, an RT Arabic correspondent reported on Thursday, citing a military source. Several other networks, including Arab TV network Al Mayadeen and Sputnik, ran reports based on their own sources saying that the deal had been secured, without providing any details of the conditions.

Speculation about a more active role for Damascus in the Afrin confrontation arose back in January, when the Kurdish self-administration urged Damascus to protect Syrian sovereignty by sending troops to Afrin. Last Monday, YPG commander Sipan Hamo said that he would have “no problem” with the Syrian Army intervening in the conflict to drive away the Turkish forces.

Read more
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in Ankara, Turkey, February 16, 2018 © Cem OzdelTillerson in Ankara pledges limited weapon supplies to SDF, says Manbij ‘priority’ in Syria
Turkey, which has been carrying out Operation Olive Branch in Afrin since January 20, insists that the offensive is solely aimed at wiping out terrorists, denying allegations that it has targeted civilians.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also vowed to return the enclave to its “original owner” after it is “liberated” from YPG.

The offensive will allow some 500,000 displaced Syrians to return to their homes in Afrin, Turkey’s first lady Emine Erdogan said on Friday, claiming that “the aim of this operation is to ensure safety in the region.”

President Erdogan has repeatedly indicated he would like to expand the operation further and move into Manbij, where US forces supporting the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are stationed; this has raised fears of a potential clash between the two NATO allies. At a recent meeting in Ankara, US Secretary Rex Tillerson and Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu agreed that the bilateral relations were at “a crisis point,” calling the situation around Manbij a “priority” that needed to be addressed urgently. Turkey also touted the idea of a joint US and Turkey deployment in the area, on condition that the US guarantees a prompt withdrawal of the Kurdish YPG forces.
Зна ли неко:
1. Да ли су стварно афрински Курди извели етничко чишћење Африна?
2. Ако нису (1), је ли могуће да су толико људи пребегли одатле?

Ако је под (2) одговор НЕ, онда је то потврда о мојим слутњама изнесеним предходно.
 
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Рачунају да ће брзо потрошити "зелене", а онда они морају да крваре гyзицe...а Балкан далеко, далеко...црна рупа.

ОФ
Грк окачио своје мишљење.

Ово је већ застарело.
Грци (по професији) већ изјавили да би хтели до Дунава. :mrgreen:

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Иначе, стварно, нисам ни помишљао да је турска војска овако млитава.
Мислио сам да су се одавно очеличили на практичној настави око Дијарбекира. :huh:
 

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Ово је већ застарело.
Грци (по професији) већ изјавили да би хтели до Дунава. :mrgreen:

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Иначе, стварно, нисам ни помишљао да је турска војска овако млитава.
Мислио сам да су се одавно очеличили на практичној настави око Дијарбекира. :huh:
ЈНА на папиру је исто важила за јаку али јачина војске без континуиране праксе је упитна.
На прсте једне руке можемо набројати тренутно најспремније.
Ја бих рекао САД,Русија и Израел па онда три реда празно.
 
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