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White House Denies Report Biden Offered Up Ukrainian Territory To End War
By Isabel van Brugen
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The White House and the CIA have responded to a report that CIA Director, William Burns, offered Russian President Vladimir Putin a fifth of Ukraine's territory to end the ongoing war as part of a peace plan drawn up on behalf of President Joe Biden.

A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."


Last month, Burns traveled in secret to meet and brief Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, The Washington Post reported.
Burns is said to have submitted the plan in mid-January to put an end to the war, which began on February 24, 2022. The story was reported by NZZ on Thursday, citing high-ranking German foreign politicians.
Both Kyiv and Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.

U.S. President Joe Biden

U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during a meeting of his Competition Council, in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on February 1, 2023.MANDEL NGAN/AFP/GETTY IMAGES


Newsweek reached out to the foreign ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment.

According to the newspaper, the proposal offered "around 20 percent of Ukraine's territory"—approximately the size of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

Kyiv reportedly shut down the proposal "because they are not willing to have their territory divided" while Russian officials said they "will win the war in the long run anyway," reported NZZ, which has been described as the Swiss newspaper of record.

Sean Savett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.

According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.

And when Ukraine and Russia both rejected the proposal, the Biden administration pledged to provide Kyiv with Abrams tanks, NZZ reported.

The U.S. announced on January 25 that it would send Ukraine up to 31 M1 Abrams tanks, after much debate and deliberation on the issue. The tanks could take months to arrive, according to reports.

The two politicians reportedly said that U.S. officials were split on how to handle the Ukraine war, which started nearly a year ago.

Burns and Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, "wanted to end the war quickly so they could focus on China," while Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin "didn't want to let Russia get away with destroying the rule-based peace order and called for massive military support for Ukraine."

One of the politicians told NZZ that he believes it is becoming increasingly clear that the U.S. is preparing for a long war of attrition. He raised concerns that Germany would suffer economically, financially and militarily from such a war.

Germany has also said it would provide Ukraine with 14 of its Leopard 2A6 tanks, and allow partner countries to re-export other tanks to assist Kyiv.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said on January 26 that the promised Leopard 2 tanks will arrive in Ukraine at the end of March or the start of April.

Dmitry Polyanskiy, Russia's first deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, told Newsweek the report from NZZ was "interesting," but that he couldn't "comment [on] speculation."

Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that negotiations between Russia and Ukraine "are now impossible since there are no conditions for them either de facto or de jure."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-territory-end-war-nzz-report-1778526


Dzo Bajden trguje teritorijom Ukrajine kao svojom prcijom....

Kako komentarisu ovo sorosevci i ostali iz NATO-CIA tabora na forumu?

Znaci granice u Evropi ipak nisu nepovredive nego zavisi od situacije i trenutka???


Sta kazu na ovo @dlugomir @Sizif @Dе Sisti @Istina je @Mstislav @S1MCRO
 
Dzo Bajden trguje teritorijom Ukrajine kao svojom prcijom....

Kako komentarisu ovo sorosevci i ostali iz NATO-CIA tabora na forumu?

Znaci granice u Evropi ipak nisu nepovredive nego zavisi od situacije i trenutka???

To su sve rekla-kazala priče i ne može biti ozbiljno komentarisati ih.

Nije tajna da Amerima odgovara da se cela stvar završi tako što bi se priznalo stanje na terenu. Šta je ko zauzeo, zauzeo je. Pošto već duže vreme nema nekog značajnijeg napredovanja ni jednih ni drugih. Tako da je to stav Amera već duže vreme, nije to tajna. Samo je problem što Zelenski neće da prihvati, a i Putin se premišlja, sad su mu verovatno porasli apetiti. Tako da, videćemo. Takvi pregovori se dešavaju konstantno, relevantno je samo ono što se zvanično objavi, sve ovo ostalo "procureli tajni sastanci i rekla kazala priče", što ti obožavaš da šalješ, su uglavnom gluposti na koje ne treba trošiti vreme.
 
To su sve rekla-kazala priče i ne može biti ozbiljno komentarisati ih.

Nije tajna da Amerima odgovara da se cela stvar završi tako što bi se priznalo stanje na terenu. Šta je ko zauzeo, zauzeo je. Pošto već duže vreme nema nekog značajnijeg napredovanja ni jednih ni drugih. Tako da je to stav Amera već duže vreme, nije to tajna. Samo je problem što Zelenski neće da prihvati, a i Putin se premišlja, sad su mu verovatno porasli apetiti. Tako da, videćemo. Takvi pregovori se dešavaju konstantno, relevantno je samo ono što se zvanično objavi, sve ovo ostalo "procureli tajni sastanci i rekla kazala priče", što ti obožavaš da šalješ, su uglavnom gluposti na koje ne treba trošiti vreme.
ne bi reko da lazljivi ameri stvarno talo misle.
Prvo: ukrajinska najplodnija zemlja pripada Blek Roku, gasna i naftna privreda Hanteru Bajdenu a industrijski basen Donbas bi trebao biti baza za otplacivanje 400 mrd dolara koje je ukrajini ugurano za ove dve zadnje godine.
Daklem, amerikanci se ne bore za ukrajinu i ukrajince vec za svoju teritoriju.................o vojno-strateskom razlogu NATO-a da i ne govorim.
 
To su sve rekla-kazala priče i ne može biti ozbiljno komentarisati ih.

Nije tajna da Amerima odgovara da se cela stvar završi tako što bi se priznalo stanje na terenu. Šta je ko zauzeo, zauzeo je. Pošto već duže vreme nema nekog značajnijeg napredovanja ni jednih ni drugih. Tako da je to stav Amera već duže vreme, nije to tajna. Samo je problem što Zelenski neće da prihvati, a i Putin se premišlja, sad su mu verovatno porasli apetiti. Tako da, videćemo. Takvi pregovori se dešavaju konstantno, relevantno je samo ono što se zvanično objavi, sve ovo ostalo "procureli tajni sastanci i rekla kazala priče", što ti obožavaš da šalješ, su uglavnom gluposti na koje ne treba trošiti vreme.


Njusvik je americki poznati list

Ti si nebitan
 
ne bi reko da lazljivi ameri stvarno talo misle.
Prvo: ukrajinska najplodnija zemlja pripada Blek Roku, gasna i naftna privreda Hanteru Bajdenu a industrijski basen Donbas bi trebao biti baza za otplacivanje 400 mrd dolara koje je ukrajini ugurano za ove dve zadnje godine.
Daklem, amerikanci se ne bore za ukrajinu i ukrajince vec za svoju teritoriju.................o vojno-strateskom razlogu NATO-a da i ne govorim.
Te priče o Black Rocku su bajke. Napose u modernom svijetu, ne postoji vlasništvo tipa 20. st. kao što se prodavalo u školama pod marksizmom. Black Rock je tvrtka koja kao ima ovoliko i onoliko onoga, a sutra može nestati, kao štp su nestale bezbrojne stare i moćne banke i tvrtke.

Phillips je bio div, a sad je sjena.

Ljudi nemaju pojma o modernoj ekonomji.
 
Dzo Bajden ponudio Putinu 20% Ukrajine u zamenu za mir i prestanak rata!

00:52
White House Denies Report Biden Offered Up Ukrainian Territory To End War
By Isabel van Brugen
Reporter
FOLLOW
227


The White House and the CIA have responded to a report that CIA Director, William Burns, offered Russian President Vladimir Putin a fifth of Ukraine's territory to end the ongoing war as part of a peace plan drawn up on behalf of President Joe Biden.

A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."


Last month, Burns traveled in secret to meet and brief Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, The Washington Post reported.
Burns is said to have submitted the plan in mid-January to put an end to the war, which began on February 24, 2022. The story was reported by NZZ on Thursday, citing high-ranking German foreign politicians.
Both Kyiv and Moscow reportedly rejected the proposal.

U.S. President Joe Biden

U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during a meeting of his Competition Council, in the East Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on February 1, 2023.MANDEL NGAN/AFP/GETTY IMAGES


Newsweek reached out to the foreign ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment.

According to the newspaper, the proposal offered "around 20 percent of Ukraine's territory"—approximately the size of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

Kyiv reportedly shut down the proposal "because they are not willing to have their territory divided" while Russian officials said they "will win the war in the long run anyway," reported NZZ, which has been described as the Swiss newspaper of record.

Sean Savett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.

According to the news outlet the German politicians said Biden wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine, and so, offered the territory as part of the peace plan.

And when Ukraine and Russia both rejected the proposal, the Biden administration pledged to provide Kyiv with Abrams tanks, NZZ reported.

The U.S. announced on January 25 that it would send Ukraine up to 31 M1 Abrams tanks, after much debate and deliberation on the issue. The tanks could take months to arrive, according to reports.

The two politicians reportedly said that U.S. officials were split on how to handle the Ukraine war, which started nearly a year ago.

Burns and Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, "wanted to end the war quickly so they could focus on China," while Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin "didn't want to let Russia get away with destroying the rule-based peace order and called for massive military support for Ukraine."

One of the politicians told NZZ that he believes it is becoming increasingly clear that the U.S. is preparing for a long war of attrition. He raised concerns that Germany would suffer economically, financially and militarily from such a war.

Germany has also said it would provide Ukraine with 14 of its Leopard 2A6 tanks, and allow partner countries to re-export other tanks to assist Kyiv.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said on January 26 that the promised Leopard 2 tanks will arrive in Ukraine at the end of March or the start of April.

Dmitry Polyanskiy, Russia's first deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, told Newsweek the report from NZZ was "interesting," but that he couldn't "comment [on] speculation."

Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday that negotiations between Russia and Ukraine "are now impossible since there are no conditions for them either de facto or de jure."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-territory-end-war-nzz-report-1778526


Dzo Bajden trguje teritorijom Ukrajine kao svojom prcijom....

Kako komentarisu ovo sorosevci i ostali iz NATO-CIA tabora na forumu?

Znaci granice u Evropi ipak nisu nepovredive nego zavisi od situacije i trenutka???


Sta kazu na ovo @dlugomir @Sizif @Dе Sisti @Istina je @Mstislav @S1MCRO
Malorusija pripada Rusiji, a koje će joj biti granice? ... o tome će Imperator odlučiti :cool:
 
ne bi reko da lazljivi ameri stvarno talo misle.
Prvo: ukrajinska najplodnija zemlja pripada Blek Roku, gasna i naftna privreda Hanteru Bajdenu a industrijski basen Donbas bi trebao biti baza za otplacivanje 400 mrd dolara koje je ukrajini ugurano za ove dve zadnje godine.
Daklem, amerikanci se ne bore za ukrajinu i ukrajince vec za svoju teritoriju.................o vojno-strateskom razlogu NATO-a da i ne govorim.

Mislim da ne razumeš kako radi kapitalizam i slobodno tržište. Ako je neka zamlja, kao na primer Ukrajina, dobila ogromne pare na ime pomoći, tu je uvek jedan deo bespovratan a drugi predstavlja dug. Dugovi se naravno moraju vraćati, znaš i sam da nema besplatnog ručka. Jedan od oblika vraćanja duga je i prodaja vlasništva nad kompanijama, tako da će razne kompanije, pa čak i pridodi resursi pasti u ruke stranaca. Međutim, to nije ništa loše. Čak i naprotiv, za neku slabu i razorenu zemlju, upravo je od velike koristi da im dođe strani kapital i da im se privreda pokrene. Ukrajina će posle rata biti jedno veliko gradilište i privlačiće razne oblike investicija. Kao što se Evropa izdigla iz pepela posle WW2, tako isto može i Ukrajina. Posle kad se dugovi vrate, ostaje im jaka ekonomija. Ne znam šta ti tu nije jasno, ali slobodno pitaj, sve ćemo razjasniti ;)
 
Mislim da ne razumeš kako radi kapitalizam i slobodno tržište. Ako je neka zamlja, kao na primer Ukrajina, dobila ogromne pare na ime pomoći, tu je uvek jedan deo bespovratan a drugi predstavlja dug. Dugovi se naravno moraju vraćati, znaš i sam da nema besplatnog ručka. Jedan od oblika vraćanja duga je i prodaja vlasništva nad kompanijama, tako da će razne kompanije, pa čak i pridodi resursi pasti u ruke stranaca. Međutim, to nije ništa loše. Čak i naprotiv, za neku slabu i razorenu zemlju, upravo je od velike koristi da im dođe strani kapital i da im se privreda pokrene. Ukrajina će posle rata biti jedno veliko gradilište i privlačiće razne oblike investicija. Kao što se Evropa izdigla iz pepela posle WW2, tako isto može i Ukrajina. Posle kad se dugovi vrate, ostaje im jaka ekonomija. Ne znam šta ti tu nije jasno, ali slobodno pitaj, sve ćemo razjasniti ;)
Bajke su na drugom spratu, lijevo.
 
Te priče o Black Rocku su bajke. Napose u modernom svijetu, ne postoji vlasništvo tipa 20. st. kao što se prodavalo u školama pod marksizmom. Black Rock je tvrtka koja kao ima ovoliko i onoliko onoga, a sutra može nestati, kao štp su nestale bezbrojne stare i moćne banke i tvrtke.

Phillips je bio div, a sad je sjena.

Ljudi nemaju pojma o modernoj ekonomji.
moderne ekonomije vise nema.
A sto se tice Blek Roka, to je Rotschildova firma ...........i jedino sto moze da je unisti to je Rusija.
 
Mislim da ne razumeš kako radi kapitalizam i slobodno tržište. Ako je neka zamlja, kao na primer Ukrajina, dobila ogromne pare na ime pomoći, tu je uvek jedan deo bespovratan a drugi predstavlja dug. Dugovi se naravno moraju vraćati, znaš i sam da nema besplatnog ručka. Jedan od oblika vraćanja duga je i prodaja vlasništva nad kompanijama, tako da će razne kompanije, pa čak i pridodi resursi pasti u ruke stranaca. Međutim, to nije ništa loše. Čak i naprotiv, za neku slabu i razorenu zemlju, upravo je od velike koristi da im dođe strani kapital i da im se privreda pokrene. Ukrajina će posle rata biti jedno veliko gradilište i privlačiće razne oblike investicija. Kao što se Evropa izdigla iz pepela posle WW2, tako isto može i Ukrajina. Posle kad se dugovi vrate, ostaje im jaka ekonomija. Ne znam šta ti tu nije jasno, ali slobodno pitaj, sve ćemo razjasniti ;)
Sa Marsalovim planom evropa je dobila kredite ali i vecne okove americke kolonijalne politike. Videli smo na primeru ukrajinskog rata sta za evropu znace ti americki okovi. Naravno, sto se tice ukrajine, ako bi se nekim cudom rusi povukli iz ukrajine, ukrajina bi morala kreditorima ustupiti sva nacionalna bogatstva...............nazalost, ti kreditori uopste nisu kapitalisti kojima je cilj profit, vec eksponenti finansijskog kapitala dinastije Rotschild............KOJA IMA DRUGACIJE PLANOVE NE SAMO ZA UKRAJINU, RUSIJU I EVROPU, VEC ZA CELU PLANETU.
A ti planovi uopste nisu ruzicasti..........na osnovu svega sto se desilo za ovih 30 godina delimicne globalne vladavine dinastije Rotschild.
 

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