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Financial Times:
July 18, 2012 8:36 pm
Marissa Mayer and the motherhood penalty
By April Dembosky

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6cb57524-d022-11e1-99a8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz22M2Y5Diu

The reaction to Marissa Mayer’s pregnancy has been polite. Congratulations have followed the news that she will give birth to a baby boy in October, three months after taking the helm of Yahoo. Any criticism she may have anticipated from those doubting her ability to be a mother and a CEO at the same time, she staunched immediately with the pronouncement that she would take just a few weeks of maternity leave.
That, in turn, invited criticism from some who argued that such a short leave could set a bad example for other working women. Ms Mayer is in an impossible situation. However she manages her schedule, she will undoubtedly face the double standard that so many women of all levels of employment face, that they are either neglecting their jobs or neglecting their kids.
Whether she wants to or not, Ms Mayer will come to personify this dilemma. Her every work-life choice will be analysed and judged, whispered about at the water cooler or deconstructed on blogs. She will be asked to speak out, to be a role model for other women, even if she just wants to lead and turn round one of the biggest technology companies in the world.
While a complicated, intelligent debate is conducted over whether women can or cannot “have it all”, on their own terms, society has not yet come to terms with having mothers in charge of multibillion-dollar corporations. Including Ms Mayer, 19 Fortune 500 companies are run by women. Slightly more than half of them have children.
Last year, a Silicon Valley investor said: “A pregnant founder/CEO is going to fail her company.” As he contemplated an investment in a company run by a woman pregnant with twins, he thought: “How in the hell is this founder going to lead a team, build a company and change the world for these businesses carrying a kid around for the next few months and then caring for the kids after?”
In the broader business world, studies show that women encounter the worst discrimination around motherhood. One Stanford study gave participants two CVs for a management consultant. Both were for women and both were identical, except one listed membership in a Parent Teacher Association. Rated by participants, the woman with the child was 79 per cent less likely to be hired, 100 per cent less likely to be promoted and offered $11,000 less in salary.
Another study found that highly motivated women were perceived by managers to be so committed to work that they must be bad mothers, and that led to lower salary increases and fewer promotions.
Ms Mayer has overcome at least one of these biases, winning over the board of Yahoo, which lauded her vast experience and qualifications in appointing her as CEO. But her rise to executive level speaks to a related debate that has erupted among professional women, and two high-powered ones in particular.
Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook chief operating officer, advises women to find a supportive partner who is willing to share the work and to maintain their sense of ambition, even if they are thinking of starting a family. She has told women it is OK to hire a nanny.
But Ms Sandberg was challenged on her views recently by Anne-Marie Slaughter, former director of policy planning at the US state department. What needed to change, according to Ms Slaughter, was the culture of the workplace: the idea that face-time and long hours, not efficiency, translated into good work.
A chorus of women in the blogosphere and on social media chimed in that both Ms Sandberg and Ms Slaughter had failed to address adequately the vast majority of working mothers whose careers do not yield the kind of salary that can afford a team of babysitters and had paid not enough attention to the role men play in the balancing act.
The debate is healthy and an important one for US society. But already Ms Mayer is being pushed to participate, to be a spokesperson for low-income working women, to set positive examples for other working mothers at Yahoo. And here she falls into another impossible situation, to be not only a good CEO and a good mother, but a good feminist, too. By virtue of being a pregnant CEO, she must take a stand on being a pregnant CEO, with critics waiting to pounce regardless of what opinion she expresses, even if, and especially if, she chooses to say nothing.
Nije lako biti dobra majka. Kako u Americi, tako i u Srbiji. Americkim trudnicama nedostaje Vreme, a nasim trudnicama Novac.

A Vreme je Novac. :whistling:

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Znas, Parune, ovo JESTE politicka tema. Definicija rada u Srbiji i definicija rada u Americi su sasvim razliciti pojmovi. Kao Nebo i Zemlja. U Srbiji rade "Only Fools and Horses". U Americi sav Posten i NEposten svet. :rtfm:

_nobody_
Znam to, opravdanje u Srbiji je kao satro mala lova, pa nece ni da rade. Ima puno zemalja gde je mala lova, pa cak i u nekim bogatim zemljama placaju malo, ali jedna prilika otvara drugu i omogucava napredovanje po vertikali, ili otvara neka druga vrata. Ja sam pre par godina bio tamo i jednoj rodjaci nasao posao za par dana u jednom 5 star hotelu, da radi sve, od sobarice, kuhinje, recepcije i sta se sve radi u hotelu. Vlasnik je pristao da je primi a ona je to odbila sa potcenjivanjem !? Bilo je oko 150 jevreja mesecno, OK nije mnogo..ali eno je i dan danas ceka neki dobro placen posao - koji nece doci nikad....
 

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Parune pa jel bi ti prijatelju radio za150€ jel bi dao svojoj zeni da radi za 150€ mesec dana?Covek kad radi mora i da jede i da placa prevoz ako radi za 150€ pa zasta radi?Zasta se trosi?
Pa da bi usavrsila znanja, ili "znanja". Nije isto da li radi u Naucnoom Institutu za 150 jevreja, ili u Shoping Centru "Usce" u butiku za donji ves za iste parice. Znanja svakojaka mogu da se usavrse za 150 jevreja, da li si svestan toga, batice Vaderu? :mrgreen:

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Parune pa jel bi ti prijatelju radio za150€ jel bi dao svojoj zeni da radi za 150€ mesec dana?Covek kad radi mora i da jede i da placa prevoz ako radi za 150€ pa zasta radi?Zasta se trosi?
Veruj mi da sam i sam na Zapadu radio za malu lovu a i danas nisam placen nesto posebno. Evo npr u hotelu, osim plate tu je i drugi benefit. Ponekad baksis, klopa iz restorana, uspostavljanje veze sa ljudima, ucenje posla, ljudi vide da vredis radis pa ti ponude i nesto bolje. Takodje mogucnost da dobijes povecanje... To je osnovni rad... a prave pare se prave ne od sefa nego ulaganjem u nesto. Danas su kuce i stanovi narocito u provinciji jeftini. Ako radis banka ce ti pozajmiti novac da ulozis u nesto, privatni business ili stan... it'd Ne radis sve to gubis ... Svi svetski bogatasi, recimo Roman Abramovich je poceo business sa 1000 dolara !!!

Njoj je hotel 5 star bio peske od kuce plus besplatna klopa, ali joj je to bilo ispod casti ??? Ali joj nije ispod casti da svaki cast zove i - trazi lovu za ponesto !!!
 

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Njoj je hotel 5 star bio peske od kuce plus besplatna klopa, ali joj je to bilo ispod casti ??? Ali joj nije ispod casti da svaki cast zove i - trazi lovu za ponesto !!!
Ma ona je Pitchka i Pamet Neizmerna... Njoj treba dati jer je lepotica u tate i mame. A to sto ona nema nimalo Svesti, i sto joj se iebe za to se tu i tamo grebe (Odavde do Vecnosti) za cigarete i pivo... Iebiga! Ni Bog ni Komunisticka Partija!

(Ona je Komunista, veruje u Isusa Hrista!) :ok:

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Ko nije izasao iz Srbije ima laznu sliku da lova pada sa neba, samo kazi koliko hoces.... Video sam i licno se uverio da taxisti u Dubaiu za mesec dana dobiju izmedju $150 do $250, radnici na gradjevinama su placeni $1 do $2 na sat !!! Pa rade i cute... Skrgucu zubima ali ako neces - neko hoce. Mladi moraju da shvate da je rad sve pa makar i za malu lovu dok ne dodje bolja.
 

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Znas, Parune, ovo JESTE politicka tema. Definicija rada u Srbiji i definicija rada u Americi su sasvim razliciti pojmovi. Kao Nebo i Zemlja. U Srbiji rade "Only Fools and Horses". U Americi sav Posten i NEposten svet. :rtfm:

_nobody_
Uporedjivati Srbiju i Ameriku na bilo koji nacin i po bilo kom pitanju je u najmanju ruku imbecilno.
Srpska pamet se ne razlikuje od bilo cije pameti.
U Holandiji, na primer, porodilje moraju da se vrate na posao posle samo 4 meseca.
 

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Ko nije izasao iz Srbije ima laznu sliku da lova pada sa neba, samo kazi koliko hoces.... Video sam i licno se uverio da taxisti u Dubaiu za mesec dana dobiju izmedju $150 do $250, radnici na gradjevinama su placeni $1 do $2 na sat !!! Pa rade i cute... Skrgucu zubima ali ako neces - neko hoce. Mladi moraju da shvate da je rad sve pa makar i za malu lovu dok ne dodje bolja.
Ne vredi da im pricas, Parune... To je gubljenje Vremena i Zivaca. Ali, zato Srbiji i IDE ovako. Jer mladi gledaju uzore: Chedu, Botu, ToNija, SuNATOvca, Djidu, Darka Sarica, Canka, Glivicu sa Kravicom, Caneta Kentu, Cuker Koleta, Krmivoja, zemunske, surcinske, vozdovacke, cuburske i ostale klanove, jer ti momci JEDINI imaju veliku lovu, zna se za kakav "rad"!

Na dnu te bare 6 miliona ljudi jedva prezivljava, sa Neizvesnim Morgen. Sa Malo Morgen! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:

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Значи боље плаћени у Србији. Ипак је Дубаи задња свирала на свету а не Београд. Сад ми лакше.
Nije tako a evo zasto. To su uglavnom iz siromasnih zemalja Banglades, Pakistan, Nepal, Indonezija, Filipini.... U bangladesu je zarada $1 na dan, a u UAE imaju oko $150 do $300 mesecno ali to je tax free, stan i kazan su besplatni, imaju sve medicinske troskove i kartu za avion jednom godisnje kuci. Pa sad vidi. Oni ustede godisnje oko 5 somova a u Bangladesu su sa tim parama bogati ljudi... Da li neko u Srbiji od srednje klase moze da ustedi petaka godisnje ?
 

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Зато је Горење преместио фабрику из Словеније у Србију. Тамо му радили за 1000 евра, овде за 200. Рачуница јасна. (плус добили од државе по пар хиљада евра по запосленом) где ће боље од тога..
 

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Зато је Горење преместио фабрику из Словеније у Србију. Тамо му радили за 1000 евра, овде за 200. Рачуница јасна. (плус добили од државе по пар хиљада евра по запосленом) где ће боље од тога..
To je opsti trend na Zapadu, sve se premesta u Aziju gde je jeftina radna snaga. Zapadne zemlje ubrzano premestaju i proizvodnju i service u Indiju, Kinu i Filipine. Arapi medjutim rade bolje jel jeftinu radnu snagu dovode kuci i ne gube niti proizvodnju niti service.
 

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