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Does Germany see Serbia as a leader in the Southeast Europe?
In a brief, yes, Germany does view Serbia as a sort of a leader in the Southeast Europe, albeit in a very weird and mutually damaging way
Four series of events first:
Main country of which each country imports from, late 2010s.
These 4 series of events are all symptomatic of a constant friction between the German aims toward the Balkans and the existence and development of a strong Serbia, let alone of a Yugoslav country revolving around Serbia.
Germany has no worst rival in the Balkans than Serbia (Greece is more busy with Turkey, with its back offered to German schemes, as seen during the 20 last years). And hence, through that rivalry, Germany recognized for 150 years already Serbia as a leader in the Balkans, hence as a country to be wiped out from the map, or, since the 90s, as a country to be utterly dismembered and submitted before being swallowed in the German led European Union.
The other answers pushing Serbia into irrelevance and implying that Serbia deserves whatever harm felt upon it are the consequences of a successful German & Anglo-American propaganda to make us all forget that Serbs were close to be big & wealthy enough to develop their own version of the Renaissance in the XIVth and XVth century, fought the Ottomans for centuries even when Serbia was no more, liberated themselves from their yoke in a process taking a whole century, and were allied nations in both WW1 & WW2, before facing alone the wrath of a NATO supporting a rehabilitated Germany during the 90s and, in the spirit, ever since.
Now, Serbia’s backbone has been widely damaged, to the point that in 2050, the country might have half of the population it had in 1990 (from around 10 to 5 millions inhabitants) if it keeps rolling-down on its current trend. While Germany has 80, including a million of ex-Yugoslavs, half a million more living in Austria. In such respect, we can acknowledge that Germany likely won over this rivalry.
Germany, a country which led 50 millions of Europeans to their death during the 20th century, including 2 millions of Serbs as their enemies (among which figured the Russians, the French, the British and the Americans), has finally found in its 3 former Western enemies the allies it needed through NATO to put Serbia on its back in peace time, as is seen today.
And yet, even today, hordes of diplomats, academics, and journalists revolving around the German-led EU, NATO, and the USA are paid in order to libel, demean, judge, patronize, and influence whatever Serbia is and whatever Serbs are doing, a clue that a ghost of that rivalry still exists, albeit under the form of an iron hammer waving over a wooden pot. Which still stands today, with all its scars and its leaking demography.
Meanwhile, it is worth remarking that Serbia didn’t claim any territory from Germany, nor ever sent its armies there, causing death and destruction in the country. The Germans killed during the occupation of Bosnia, WW1, and WW2, were all killed on Serbian ethnic lands on which they had nothing but harm to cause and receive, and Germany lost lands out of its own aggression against other European countries.
As for for the Schwabian killed, interned, or deported from Vojvodina after WW2, it is also worth to be noted that they were treated that way by the Yugoslav communist partizans of Tito, the very same Tito who was raised within Austria, fought in the Austrian ranks in WW1, then joined a communist faction of whose ideology was born in Germany, a Tito of whom Germany was hell-bent to enforce the territorial legacy in the 90s and the 2,000s by pushing to grant independence, away from Belgrade, to all the ex-Yugoslav federated Republics away from Belgrade and to Kosovo & Metohija.
Anyway, all honors for Serbia to have survived so much until today. And all hopes that Serbian political leaders will ante-up their game to advert further decline, stabilize the situation, and give Serbia the proper fundamentals to start a regrowth, for the time of European Wars is likely coming to an end, and hence Serbia can use that relative calm and the opportunities it offers, despite all the specific constraints it faces (diplomatic bullying, Serbian nation scattered in several countries & polities), in order to rebuild and thrive.
Autorska tema - poziv na diskusiju o nemačkom viđenju uloge Srbije na Zapadnom Balkanu, odnosu Nemačke prema Srbiji, naročito iz istorijske i geopolitičke perspektive.
An overview by Julien Philippe
In a brief, yes, Germany does view Serbia as a sort of a leader in the Southeast Europe, albeit in a very weird and mutually damaging way
Four series of events first:
- The treaty of San Stefano and Berlin (1878) among other things preventing Bosnia to join Serbia and leaving the agonizing Ottoman Empire alive in the Balkans in order to not contain Austrian expansion southward ;
- WW1 (1914–1918), which Austria started by attacking Serbia, once again out of a mess in Bosnia, and its dreadful consequences for the Germanic Empires (dissolving Austria-Hungary and shrinking Germany, forming a Serbian-led Yugoslav country) ;
- WW2 (1941–1945), after the coup of march 1941 when the Serbs toppled their regent who signed a treaty with the Axis, the Barbarossa operation was delayed by the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia & Greece and ultimately failed, leading to further dreadful consequences for Germany (The joint-victory of the Soviet Union and the US led Western Allies against the Nazi Germany concluded into shrinking furthermore Germany and cleansing Eastern Europe of its German populations, while Yugoslavia survived, albeit as a socialist federation) ;
- And the Yugoslav Wars, fed from the start by the German diplomacy (recognizing Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia and pushing sanctions against Belgrade, and ending on the secession of Montenegro from its union with Serbia a NATO puppet Statelet in Kosovo & Metohija) in order to destroy that annoying country preventing an Austro-German economic take-over of the Balkans. At last successful…
Main country of which each country imports from, late 2010s.
These 4 series of events are all symptomatic of a constant friction between the German aims toward the Balkans and the existence and development of a strong Serbia, let alone of a Yugoslav country revolving around Serbia.
Germany has no worst rival in the Balkans than Serbia (Greece is more busy with Turkey, with its back offered to German schemes, as seen during the 20 last years). And hence, through that rivalry, Germany recognized for 150 years already Serbia as a leader in the Balkans, hence as a country to be wiped out from the map, or, since the 90s, as a country to be utterly dismembered and submitted before being swallowed in the German led European Union.
The other answers pushing Serbia into irrelevance and implying that Serbia deserves whatever harm felt upon it are the consequences of a successful German & Anglo-American propaganda to make us all forget that Serbs were close to be big & wealthy enough to develop their own version of the Renaissance in the XIVth and XVth century, fought the Ottomans for centuries even when Serbia was no more, liberated themselves from their yoke in a process taking a whole century, and were allied nations in both WW1 & WW2, before facing alone the wrath of a NATO supporting a rehabilitated Germany during the 90s and, in the spirit, ever since.
Now, Serbia’s backbone has been widely damaged, to the point that in 2050, the country might have half of the population it had in 1990 (from around 10 to 5 millions inhabitants) if it keeps rolling-down on its current trend. While Germany has 80, including a million of ex-Yugoslavs, half a million more living in Austria. In such respect, we can acknowledge that Germany likely won over this rivalry.
Germany, a country which led 50 millions of Europeans to their death during the 20th century, including 2 millions of Serbs as their enemies (among which figured the Russians, the French, the British and the Americans), has finally found in its 3 former Western enemies the allies it needed through NATO to put Serbia on its back in peace time, as is seen today.
And yet, even today, hordes of diplomats, academics, and journalists revolving around the German-led EU, NATO, and the USA are paid in order to libel, demean, judge, patronize, and influence whatever Serbia is and whatever Serbs are doing, a clue that a ghost of that rivalry still exists, albeit under the form of an iron hammer waving over a wooden pot. Which still stands today, with all its scars and its leaking demography.
Meanwhile, it is worth remarking that Serbia didn’t claim any territory from Germany, nor ever sent its armies there, causing death and destruction in the country. The Germans killed during the occupation of Bosnia, WW1, and WW2, were all killed on Serbian ethnic lands on which they had nothing but harm to cause and receive, and Germany lost lands out of its own aggression against other European countries.
As for for the Schwabian killed, interned, or deported from Vojvodina after WW2, it is also worth to be noted that they were treated that way by the Yugoslav communist partizans of Tito, the very same Tito who was raised within Austria, fought in the Austrian ranks in WW1, then joined a communist faction of whose ideology was born in Germany, a Tito of whom Germany was hell-bent to enforce the territorial legacy in the 90s and the 2,000s by pushing to grant independence, away from Belgrade, to all the ex-Yugoslav federated Republics away from Belgrade and to Kosovo & Metohija.
Anyway, all honors for Serbia to have survived so much until today. And all hopes that Serbian political leaders will ante-up their game to advert further decline, stabilize the situation, and give Serbia the proper fundamentals to start a regrowth, for the time of European Wars is likely coming to an end, and hence Serbia can use that relative calm and the opportunities it offers, despite all the specific constraints it faces (diplomatic bullying, Serbian nation scattered in several countries & polities), in order to rebuild and thrive.
Autorska tema - poziv na diskusiju o nemačkom viđenju uloge Srbije na Zapadnom Balkanu, odnosu Nemačke prema Srbiji, naročito iz istorijske i geopolitičke perspektive.
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