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Наишао сам на нету пре пар дана на бродске манифесте с'почетка ХХ века за имигранте са територије Црне Горе у Америку..............интересантно је да се НИГДЕ не помиње тзв. "црногорска" националност.
Све сами Срби........па ме нешто занима, одакле су се и када су се на територију Црне Горе населили тзв. "црногорци" с' обзиром да се ти ликови као посебан народ а не географска одредница први пут у светској историји појављују тек 1945. године?
О језику тек да не говорим...УН су одбиле да "црногорски" језик ставе на званичну листу светских језика.
Дакле, одакле су се те индивидуе током другог светског рата населиле у Црну гору?
First Name: Andrea
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: S. H. S., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, S. H. S. Servian
Date of Arrival: Sep 08, 1920
Age at Arrival: 6y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Iva
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: S. H. S., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, S. H. S. Servian
Date of Arrival: Sep 08, 1920
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: P. Joso.
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: Montenegro-Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Donje Kraj
Date of Arrival: Feb 09, 1907
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Savoie
Port of Departure: Havre, France
Manifest Line Number: 0001
First Name: Marko
Last Name: Dabovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro-Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cruica, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Sep 14, 1912
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Amerika
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Hana
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 33y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Ivo
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 11y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Nico An
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Maini
Date of Arrival: Apr 03, 1904
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Nico An
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Maini
Date of Arrival: Apr 03, 1904
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Savo
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 10y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0005
First Name: Milica
Last Name: Lainovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Paolgorica, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 05, 1911
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Martha Washington
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0013
First Name: Milica
Last Name: Lainovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrian, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Aust.
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1907
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Carpathia
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0023
First Name: Milosava
Last Name: Lubarda
Ethnicity: Yougosl., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Ludibotice, Yougasliva
Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1924
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Olympic
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0014
First Name: Spawje
Last Name: Grgurovic
Ethnicity: Mantenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Danilovgrav, Mantenegro
Date of Arrival: Sep 26, 1913
Age at Arrival: 40y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Pretoria
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0022
First Name: David R.
Last Name: Gvozdenovic
Ethnicity: Serbian, Montenegro
Last Place of Residence: Cevv
Date of Arrival: Oct 31, 1903
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Jovan
Last Name: Stanisic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Danilovgrad Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 25, 1913
Age at Arrival: 39y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Laura
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Blajo
Last Name: Gazivoda
Ethnicity: Morcteuegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Donyezaklin
Date of Arrival: Apr 29, 1907
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Patricia
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0014
First Name: Vuko...
Last Name: Gazivoda
Ethnicity: Serbia, Montenegro
Last Place of Residence: Dodora
Date of Arrival: Aug 31, 1906
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Hudson
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0008
First Name: Radovan
Last Name: Dragovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Spuz, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 05, 1910
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Zieten
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0009
First Name: Tomica
Last Name: Dulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Mokrok, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 04, 1914
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Ivan
Last Name: Radulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Mokrok, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 04, 1914
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0024
First Name: Jakob
Last Name: Radulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Bjela
Date of Arrival: Jun 25, 1907
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Nieuw Amsterdam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Holland
Manifest Line Number: 0027
First Name: Lika
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1923
Age at Arrival: 25 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Majestic
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Punisa
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Niksic
Date of Arrival: Jun 03, 1905
Age at Arrival: 34y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Montreal
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0015
First Name: Vaso
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Lynbotnje, Montenegrin
Date of Arrival: May 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Grant
Port of Departure: Cuxhaven
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Velika
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1923
Age at Arrival: 25 Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Majestic
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0007
First Name: Novica
Last Name: Savic
Ethnicity: Monteneg, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Gornjepolze, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Jul 20, 1912
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Zakarje
Last Name: Savicevic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Bratonowze, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: May 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Grant
Port of Departure: Cuxhaven
Manifest Line Number: 0016
First Name: Luka
Last Name: Sekulic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Spna, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 05, 1910
Age at Arrival: 33y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Zieten
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Giuro
Last Name: Stojanovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin-Seriban
Last Place of Residence: Botun, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: May 25, 1914
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Laura
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Jovan
Last Name: Stojanovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Oras, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 21, 1909
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Martha Washington
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0020
а и први попис становништа Књажевине Црне Горе не познаје тзв. "црногорску" нацију
Demografski okvir Crne Gore se može pratiti od 1909. godine kada je Kneževina Crna Gora obavila svoj prvi popis stanovništva po nacionalnoj pripadnosti, religijskoj pripadnosti i meternjem jeziku: UKUPNO stanovnika: 317.856 od toga Srba, pravoslavnih hrišćana 94,38% i nešto muslimana, dok je po maternjem jeziku bilo 95% onih kojima je srpski bio maternji jezik, a u većem broju je bilo i stanovništva sa albanskim jezikom kao maternjim. Smatra se da je tadašlji broj stanovnika bio precenjen i procenjen je na oko 220.000.
Све сами Срби........па ме нешто занима, одакле су се и када су се на територију Црне Горе населили тзв. "црногорци" с' обзиром да се ти ликови као посебан народ а не географска одредница први пут у светској историји појављују тек 1945. године?
О језику тек да не говорим...УН су одбиле да "црногорски" језик ставе на званичну листу светских језика.
Дакле, одакле су се те индивидуе током другог светског рата населиле у Црну гору?
First Name: Andrea
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: S. H. S., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, S. H. S. Servian
Date of Arrival: Sep 08, 1920
Age at Arrival: 6y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Iva
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: S. H. S., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, S. H. S. Servian
Date of Arrival: Sep 08, 1920
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: P. Joso.
Last Name: Ivanisevic
Ethnicity: Montenegro-Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Donje Kraj
Date of Arrival: Feb 09, 1907
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Savoie
Port of Departure: Havre, France
Manifest Line Number: 0001
First Name: Marko
Last Name: Dabovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro-Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cruica, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Sep 14, 1912
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Amerika
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Hana
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 33y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Ivo
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 11y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Nico An
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Maini
Date of Arrival: Apr 03, 1904
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Nico An
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Maini
Date of Arrival: Apr 03, 1904
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0003
First Name: Savo
Last Name: Lazovic
Ethnicity: Austria, Serb
Last Place of Residence: Grbalj, Austria
Date of Arrival: Dec 01, 1912
Age at Arrival: 10y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0005
First Name: Milica
Last Name: Lainovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Paolgorica, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 05, 1911
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Martha Washington
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0013
First Name: Milica
Last Name: Lainovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrian, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Aust.
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1907
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Carpathia
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0023
First Name: Milosava
Last Name: Lubarda
Ethnicity: Yougosl., Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Ludibotice, Yougasliva
Date of Arrival: Dec 03, 1924
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Olympic
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0014
First Name: Spawje
Last Name: Grgurovic
Ethnicity: Mantenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Danilovgrav, Mantenegro
Date of Arrival: Sep 26, 1913
Age at Arrival: 40y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Pretoria
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0022
First Name: David R.
Last Name: Gvozdenovic
Ethnicity: Serbian, Montenegro
Last Place of Residence: Cevv
Date of Arrival: Oct 31, 1903
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Jovan
Last Name: Stanisic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Danilovgrad Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 25, 1913
Age at Arrival: 39y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Laura
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Blajo
Last Name: Gazivoda
Ethnicity: Morcteuegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Donyezaklin
Date of Arrival: Apr 29, 1907
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Patricia
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0014
First Name: Vuko...
Last Name: Gazivoda
Ethnicity: Serbia, Montenegro
Last Place of Residence: Dodora
Date of Arrival: Aug 31, 1906
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Hudson
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0008
First Name: Radovan
Last Name: Dragovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Spuz, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 05, 1910
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Zieten
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0009
First Name: Tomica
Last Name: Dulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Mokrok, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 04, 1914
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Ivan
Last Name: Radulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Mokrok, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 04, 1914
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0024
First Name: Jakob
Last Name: Radulovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Bjela
Date of Arrival: Jun 25, 1907
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Nieuw Amsterdam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Holland
Manifest Line Number: 0027
First Name: Lika
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1923
Age at Arrival: 25 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Majestic
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Punisa
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Niksic
Date of Arrival: Jun 03, 1905
Age at Arrival: 34y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Montreal
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0015
First Name: Vaso
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Lynbotnje, Montenegrin
Date of Arrival: May 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Grant
Port of Departure: Cuxhaven
Manifest Line Number: 0004
First Name: Velika
Last Name: Vujovic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Cetinje, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Nov 21, 1923
Age at Arrival: 25 Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Majestic
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0007
First Name: Novica
Last Name: Savic
Ethnicity: Monteneg, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Gornjepolze, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Jul 20, 1912
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Kaiser Franz Josef I
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Zakarje
Last Name: Savicevic
Ethnicity: Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Bratonowze, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: May 07, 1912
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Grant
Port of Departure: Cuxhaven
Manifest Line Number: 0016
First Name: Luka
Last Name: Sekulic
Ethnicity: Montenegro, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Spna, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Mar 05, 1910
Age at Arrival: 33y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Zieten
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0026
First Name: Giuro
Last Name: Stojanovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin-Seriban
Last Place of Residence: Botun, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: May 25, 1914
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Laura
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0006
First Name: Jovan
Last Name: Stojanovic
Ethnicity: Montenegrin, Serbian
Last Place of Residence: Oras, Montenegro
Date of Arrival: Dec 21, 1909
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Martha Washington
Port of Departure: Trieste
Manifest Line Number: 0020
а и први попис становништа Књажевине Црне Горе не познаје тзв. "црногорску" нацију
Demografski okvir Crne Gore se može pratiti od 1909. godine kada je Kneževina Crna Gora obavila svoj prvi popis stanovništva po nacionalnoj pripadnosti, religijskoj pripadnosti i meternjem jeziku: UKUPNO stanovnika: 317.856 od toga Srba, pravoslavnih hrišćana 94,38% i nešto muslimana, dok je po maternjem jeziku bilo 95% onih kojima je srpski bio maternji jezik, a u većem broju je bilo i stanovništva sa albanskim jezikom kao maternjim. Smatra se da je tadašlji broj stanovnika bio precenjen i procenjen je na oko 220.000.