Tramp uvodi „čelične mere“ Evropskoj uniji — počinje trgovinski rat?

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Tramp uvodi „čelične mere“ Evropskoj uniji — počinje trgovinski rat?

A. J. 2. marta 2018. 13:36

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Predsednik Evropske komisije Žan-Klod Junker zapretio je odgovorom na odluku američkog predsednika Donalda Trampa da uvede carinu na isporuke čelika i aluminijuma, navodi se u saopštenju Evropske komisije.
– Veoma žalimo zbog ovakve odluke, koja predstavlja flagrantno mešanje u međunarodna tržišta radi zaštite sopstvenog interesa, a sve to bez opravdanja pitanjima nacionalne bezbednosti – izjavio šef Evropske komisije. U saopštenju se navodi da EU radi na odgovoru koji ne bi bio u suprotnosti sa normama Svetske trgovinske organizacije.
– Protekcionizam ne može da bude odgovor na zajedničke probleme u sektoru čelika. Umesto da se predlažu rešenja, ovaj korak samo pogoršava situaciju – tvrdi šef evropske komisije. Junker je istakao da Evropa neće sedeti skrštenih ruku dok SAD uvode nepoštene mere, zbog kojih strada na hiljade Evropljana.
Evropska komesarka za trgovinu Sesilija Malmstrem navela je da će protekcionističke mere američke administracije imati negativan efekat na transatlantske odluke i svetska tržišta.
– Uz to, oni će povećati vrednost i smanjiti izbor američkim potrošačima čelika i aluminijuma, uključujući proizvođače koji zavise od uvoza – primetila je Malmstremova.
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Sud odbio da čuje predlog Trampove administracije


„Niko nije rekao da će Srbija sigurno u EU 2025. godine“


Trampove beleške otkrile jednu rečenicu zbog koje ga svi ismevaju…


Pomoglo bi ako bi se nastavnici naoružali





Pres-sekretar predsednika Rusije Dmitrij Peskov izjavio je da Moskva pažljivo analizira situaciju.
– Mi delimo tu zabrinutost i pažljivo analiziramo situaciju oko trgovinskih odnosa nakon izjave (Donalda Trampa) – dodao je Peskov.
– Ta mera je usmerena protiv mnogih država – smatra on.
Američki predsednik Donald Tramp objavio je da će SAD uvesti visoke tarife na uvoz čelika i aluminijuma. Tramp je saopštio da će tarifa na uvoz čelika biti 25 odsto, dok će na aluminijum biti deset odsto. Mere će biti na snazi duži vremenski period, a počeće da važe sledeće nedelje.
Tramp je na Tviteru napisao da su „industrije čelika i aluminijuma desetkovane zbog nefer trgovine i loše politike koja je vođena decenijama i da druge zemlje ne smeju više da iskorišćavaju Ameriku, njene radnike i kompanije“.
Američki predsednik je na sastanku rekao da su trgovinski sporazum NAFTA i Svetska trgovinska organizacija katastrofalni za SAD i da je „uspon Kine direktno povezan sa otvaranjem Svetske trgovinske organizacije“.
Tramp nije objavio detalje o tome koje će zemlje biti pogođene novim tarifama.
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Ма да ли је могуће???
 
Занимљиво како за Европљане протекционизам није решење у овом случају али јесте у сваком другом. Иначе глуп Трампов потез. Протекционизам увек користи малом броју људи, а штету наноси свима осталима.
 
Moskovisi odgovorio Trampu: Trgovinski rat ni za koga nije dobar
Beta pre 13 minuta

Trgovinski ratovi "ni za koga nisu dobri", ocenio je danas evropski komesar za ekonomiju Pjer Moskovisi pošto je predsednik SAD Donald Tramp najavio želju da uvede uvozne takse na uvoz čelika i aluminijuma.

"Oni (trgovinski ratovi) ni za koga nisu dobri. Niko iz njih ne izlazi kao pobednik, to su bespotrebni, neopravdani ratovi u kojima svi gube. Žalimo zbog takvih mera jer one veoma liče na mere zaštite američke industrije i ni na koji način nemaju opravdanje u nacionalnoj bezbednosti", rekao je Moskovisi tokom posete sajmu poljoprivrede u Parizu, i dodao da EU već sprema odgovor. .....
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Ameri pokušavaju spasiti poreske reforme.
Nemaju rešenje za prezaduzenost.
Ovo su potezi ocajnika.
 
Moskovisi odgovorio Trampu: Trgovinski rat ni za koga nije dobar
Beta pre 13 minuta

Trgovinski ratovi "ni za koga nisu dobri", ocenio je danas evropski komesar za ekonomiju Pjer Moskovisi pošto je predsednik SAD Donald Tramp najavio želju da uvede uvozne takse na uvoz čelika i aluminijuma.

"Oni (trgovinski ratovi) ni za koga nisu dobri. Niko iz njih ne izlazi kao pobednik, to su bespotrebni, neopravdani ratovi u kojima svi gube. Žalimo zbog takvih mera jer one veoma liče na mere zaštite američke industrije i ni na koji način nemaju opravdanje u nacionalnoj bezbednosti", rekao je Moskovisi tokom posete sajmu poljoprivrede u Parizu, i dodao da EU već sprema odgovor. .....
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Ameri pokušavaju spasiti poreske reforme.
Nemaju rešenje za prezaduzenost.
Ovo su potezi ocajnika.

Sta se ti sekiras, ovo je kraj globalizacije, ako nastave tim putem.

Zar to nije ono sto zelis svo vreme?
 
Како крај кад су Англосфера и Кина кичма Неолибералног Консензуса?!

Па Трамп га лагано начиње. Није баш тако безазлен како се очекивало када су у питању најпопулистичкија обећања. Стари је то демократа.
 
Kako mislis da se odrzi, ako Tramp udari Kini 25% carinu na celik, a oni povecaju 100% plate u fabrikama?

Кина прави 5 пута више челика од ЕУССР. Јефтинији, а бољи, или истог квалитета.

Кина није обухваћена овим мерама.

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Па Трамп га лагано начиње. Није баш тако безазлен како се очекивало када су у питању најпопулистичкија обећања. Стари је то демократа.

Мјок. Није Стари Виговац, али је бољи од опозиције.

Као Вучић.
 
Мјок. Није Стари Виговац, али је бољи од опозиције.

Као Вучић.

Царина по царина... за сада ми делује да их има још доста у рукаву. То би био велики ударац ауторитету СТО и глобалној трговини уопште.
 
Кина прави 5 пута више челика од ЕУССР. Јефтинији, а бољи, или истог квалитета.

Кина није обухваћена овим мерама.

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Мјок. Није Стари Виговац, али је бољи од опозиције.

Као Вучић.

Tramp je rekao: Dizem carinu na celik na (za?) 25%

Nije rekao nista vise, ostalo je nejasno.
Da li ce biti kvota?
Da li ce sve zemlje biti pogodjene?
Da li ce biti usmereno samo prema jednoj zemlji, tj. Kini?
Da li ce NAFTA biti izuzeta?

Znamo samo da su svi zakukali od Kine preko EU, do Rusije.
 
Kina uvozi celik.

https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/exports-china.pdf

China is the world’s largest steel
exporter. In year-to-date 2017
(through September), further referred to as YTD 2017, China exported
57.9 million metric tons of steel, a 31 percent decrease from 83.6
million metric tons in YTD 2016.
China’s exports represented about 23
percent of all steel exported globally in 2016. The volume of China’s
2016 steel exports was more than do
uble that of the world’s second-
largest exporter, Japan, and more th
an triple that of the third– and
fourth-largest exporters, Russia and South Korea. In value terms, steel
represented just 2.4 percent of the total amount of goods China
exported in 2016
Kina je najveci svetski izvoznik celika.
2016. je izvela duplo vise od Japana, a tri puta vise od Rusije i Juzne Koreje, koji su drugi, treci i cetvrti svetski izvoznik.

Jedino sto SAD nije glavni uvoznik kineskog celika.
 
ako dodje do sveopsteg trgovinskog rata amerika ima da propadne skroz vise se nece kupovati americka bela tehnika nego kineski,japanski i juznokorejski isto vazi i za aute,jedino u cemu amerika ima prednost nad ostalima je u kompjuterskoj tehnologiji a ako americi udare sankcije onda ce im i ta grana privrede tesko trpeti posto ce cene sirovina za pravljenje kompjuterskih komponenti naglo porasti sto ce umanjiti prodaje a samim tim i poreze od prodaje kako god da okrenes amerika pusi samo je pitanje da li ce manje ili vise popusiti ?
 
ako dodje do sveopsteg trgovinskog rata amerika ima da propadne skroz vise se nece kupovati americka bela tehnika nego kineski,japanski i juznokorejski isto vazi i za aute,jedino u cemu amerika ima prednost nad ostalima je u kompjuterskoj tehnologiji a ako americi udare sankcije onda ce im i ta grana privrede tesko trpeti posto ce cene sirovina za pravljenje kompjuterskih komponenti naglo porasti sto ce umanjiti prodaje a samim tim i poreze od prodaje kako god da okrenes amerika pusi samo je pitanje da li ce manje ili vise popusiti ?
Da, svako ko se opire globalizmu jeste budala.
 
eto , opet ni ne znas , koje zemlje su i najvise pogodjene sa ovakvim tarifama za uvoz celika.

potrazi u sumraku , ..

ako znas.

jedna koja je i ponajvise pogodjena je KANADA a ostale su...

ajd napisi ako znas

Vode se pregovori o NAFTA, evo dok mi kuckamo oni pregovaraju.

Niko nije siguran ni da li je to ozbiljno mislio ili je lupio da pokrene pregovore.
 
Tramp je rekao: Dizem carinu na celik na (za?) 25%

Nije rekao nista vise, ostalo je nejasno.
Da li ce biti kvota?
Da li ce sve zemlje biti pogodjene?
Da li ce biti usmereno samo prema jednoj zemlji, tj. Kini?
Da li ce NAFTA biti izuzeta?

Znamo samo da su svi zakukali od Kine preko EU, do Rusije.

Canada, Brazil — but not China — will be hit hardest by Trump's steel tariffs

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/can...l-be-hit-hardest-by-trumps-steel-tariffs.html

Кини и АФ нико ништа не може, чак ни они себи не могу ништа међусобно.

Сви остали су Регионал и Оберлига.

Недостојни типкане речи.

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Царина по царина... за сада ми делује да их има још доста у рукаву. То би био велики ударац ауторитету СТО и глобалној трговини уопште.

Па, да су царине добре, нису. Слажем се.
 
WASINGTON POST

je dao i sliku trampove odluke

oni koji i znaju engleski , mogu i videti sta je i kakva je reakcija sveta , kao i sta usra drzava moze ocekivati.:ok: tj izgubiti :rtfm:

Trump finally gets his tariffs — and much of the world recoils 10/17
The Washington Post

President Trump on Thursday said he will impose punishing tariffs on imported steel and aluminum in a major escalation of his “America First” trade offensive, defying Republican congressional leaders, inviting retaliation by U.S. trading partners and shaking the stock market.



Speaking at the White House, the president said he had decided to levy tariffs of 25 percent on foreign-made steel and 10 percent on aluminum.

“We’ll be imposing tariffs on steel imports and tariffs on aluminum imports, and you’re going to see a lot of good things happen,” Trump said. “You’re going to see expansions of the companies.”

Trump’s move, under a little-used national security provision of U.S. trade law, is expected to trigger legal challenges by China, the European Union and Brazil at the World Trade Organization. It also prompted predictions that it will backfire on American farmers and other exporters.


“It’s pretty much our worst fears,” said Rufus Yerxa, president of the National Foreign Trade Council, which represents multinationals such as Microsoft and Caterpillar. “This is a pretty clear indication that the Trump administration cares more about the old economy than it does the new economy.”

Trump, however, fired back at critics Friday, claiming that trade wars can be “good” and suggesting more measures against trading partners were possible.

“When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump wrote in a tweet. “Example, when we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore-we win big. It’s easy!”

Trump’s statement Thursday on the tariffs followed hours of drama and confusion. The president initially planned a formal announcement for Thursday morning, canceled it amid pushback from opponents, and then finally disclosed the new trade barriers after meeting with 15 industry executives.

“People have no idea how badly our country has been mistreated,” Trump said. “We’re bringing it all back.”

Canada, one of the United States’ closest allies, blasted the step as “absolutely unacceptable” and vowed to respond when the levies take effect.

Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, dismissed Trump’s national security justification and said the tariffs were “a blatant intervention to protect U.S. domestic industry.”

He added, “We will not sit idly while our industry is hit with unfair measures that put thousands of European jobs at risk.”

Investors appeared shaken by the news. The Dow Jones industrial average sank 586 points, a loss of more than 2 percent, in early-afternoon trading before closing off 420 points. Early Friday, Asia markets followed suit, with Japan’s Nikkei-225 index down more than 2 percent in morning trade.

Trump’s tariff jab scrambled political lines, drawing condemnations from Republicans and conservative groups while earning applause from some Democrats.

“This welcome action is long overdue for shuttered steel plants across Ohio and steelworkers who live in fear that their jobs will be the next victims of Chinese cheating,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio.) “If we fail to stand up for steel jobs today, China will come after other jobs up and down the supply chain tomorrow.”

For months, leading Republicans have trooped to the White House in the hopes of persuading Trump not to implement his plans to tear up trade agreements and levy tariffs on foreign goods. The president has listened, in recent weeks stressing hopes of negotiating an improved North American Free Trade Agreement rather than quitting the existing deal.

But on Thursday he highlighted the wide gap between his nationalist economic views and the traditionally pro-trade Republican mainstream, going beyond the toughest of the three options he had been presented.

“The President is proposing a massive tax increase on American families. Protectionism is weak, not strong,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said in a statement. “You’d expect a policy this bad from a leftist administration, not a supposedly Republican one.”

Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.), in a statement, called the president’s decision “a big mistake that will increase costs on American consumers, cost our country jobs, and invite retaliation from other countries.”


Adam Brandon, president of the conservative group FreedomWorks, warned that new trade taxes “could be a lethal blow to all the economic success this administration has ushered in.”

The core of the problem for steel and aluminum producers is massive excess capacity in China. Annual excess steel production globally last year was 700 million tons, or more than seven times U.S. consumption.


All that surplus steel creates a buyer’s market and depresses prices, the Commerce Department said last month in recommending import limits. But the direct impact of the tariffs on China will be limited since it only accounts for around 2 percent of U.S. steel imports.


In a slap at China, Trump announced the tariffs even as a top Chinese economic official was in Washington for talks aimed at forestalling a possible trade war. Liu He, one of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s closest aides, was scheduled to meet with senior administration officials in a bid to restart a direct economic dialogue that lagged last year.

China’s Iron and Steel Association slammed what it called a “stupid protectionist move” but simultaneously said it would not have a big impact on China. “Nothing can be done about Trump. We are already numb to him,” Li Xinchuang, vice secretary-general of the association told Reuters.

Wei Jianguo, a former Chinese vice commerce minister, said the move would go against the WTO rules and hurt U.S.-China relations. “China does not want to see a trade war with the United States. But if Trump insists, China is not afraid of it,” Wei said.

The United States already has 169 trade taxes in place on various types of imported steel, including 29 on Chinese products. Some of the nation’s largest steelmakers, which sought the new tariffs, also are in good shape financially, with Nucor reporting a $1.1 billion profit last year.

Trump promised that the new tariffs would lead to “new jobs popping up” and spoke nostalgically about the industry. “If you could ever make U.S. Steel like it used to be, we’d be very happy. And I actually think it’s possible,” the president said.

U.S. Steel Corp. employs roughly 30,000 people today, down from around 200,000 in the 1960s.

Trump’s remarks left unanswered specifics about whether the tariffs will apply to U.S. allies such as Canada and the E.U. Several steelmakers — such as Arcelor­Mittal and Nucor — have production facilities on both sides of the border. The United States also runs a surplus in its iron and steel trade with its northern neighbor. For nearly a quarter-century under U.S. law, Canada has been considered part of the U.S. defense industrial base, as if its factories were American.

“Applying tariffs to Canada, despite its being part of the U.S. defense industrial base since the 1940s, will strengthen WTO claims that this decision is not really about national security,” said John Veroneau, a George W. Bush administration trade official now with the firm Covington & Burling.

Axel Eggert, head of the European Steel Association, said Trump’s move could cut European steel shipments to the United States by half.

Trump also rejected pleas from companies that are heavy users of steel and aluminum, including automakers and the beer industry, which warned that higher prices would hurt sales and potentially lead to layoffs. In 2002, the last time the United States imposed steel tariffs, steel users blamed the measures for the loss of up to 200,000 jobs.

Steel prices began moving Thursday as word of the tariffs leaked. One benchmark, for hot-rolled coil steel, posted a two-day rise of nearly 13 percent.

The aluminum tariff is forecast to create about 1,900 jobs at smelters — but will destroy 23,000 to 90,000 jobs in other manufacturing sectors, said Jorge Vazquez, managing director of Harbor Aluminum.

Agriculture has historically been a top target for retaliatory trade actions, and U.S. farm groups have warned that this time will be no different. Already, China is eyeing new duties on U.S. sorghum following the Trump administration’s decision in January to impose tariffs on washing machines and solar panels.

The damage to U.S. farmers, especially the soybean industry, could be substantial should China retaliate. U.S. farmers exported $14.2 billion worth of soybeans to China in 2016, nine times as much as was sold to the next-largest U.S. export market.

Other nations also have vowed to strike back.

According to Farmers for Free Trade, a bipartisan group, previous trade spats with Canada and Mexico have triggered crippling tariffs on U.S. produce, dairy products, pork, wine, beer and cheese.

“These tariffs are very likely to accelerate a tit-for-tat approach on trade, putting U.S. agricultural exports in the crosshairs,” Brian Kuehl, the group’s executive director, said in a statement. “Everyone agrees we need to hold our trading partners accountable, but taking unilateral action to raise tariffs carries harmful unintended consequences.”
 

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