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Da ali oseti se razlika svakako , dovoljno da se kaze da su ovi uz Googlea jedni slepci.
To ni MS ne radi vise sto radi Google sada.
To ni MS ne radi vise sto radi Google sada.
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jesu MS i Google naprvili neke gluposti pri apdejtima,ali kada se malo procaprka po podesavanjima,radi sve kako treba.Ranije nije bilo takvih smicalica.Sta sad hoce da dokazu pitanje je,ali im je u svakom slucaju glupo.Neznam kod mene je sad ukljucen Viber,dopisujem se sa cerkom,ukljucen Skype i cekam neki poziv,a slusam muziku na YT i nemam nikakvih trzavica,a evo me i na Forumu.
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Kako nije bilo, seti se sta je MS radio dok je IE bio sampion i u vrhuncu slave ...
Za konkretno ovaj slucaj procitaj sa onog linka sta je problem i zasto je YT sporiji na FF a pogotovo na Edge.
Chrome ne koristim vise, ima 6 meseci.
Tu je FF kao primarni, EGde i Opera.
Edge je sve bolji i bolji, i drago mi je da MS radi na njemu.
Za konkretno ovaj slucaj procitaj sa onog linka sta je problem i zasto je YT sporiji na FF a pogotovo na Edge.
Chrome ne koristim vise, ima 6 meseci.
Tu je FF kao primarni, EGde i Opera.
Edge je sve bolji i bolji, i drago mi je da MS radi na njemu.
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Jeste pravilo problem na IE,kao i sad sa Mozillom,kad god izadje novi apdejt ili nova verzija,uvek neki problemi.Pa dok to ne poprave prodju bar 3 verzije.Mislio sam na Mozillu.ne mogu da se setim nekih problema sem sa Flash Player-om za YT.
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Chrome oduvek.Probao više puta da se naviknem na Firefox ili Operu,ne ide....
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Мозила одлична, никад ни један апдејт ми није правио проблем. Плус добри плагинови, нисам девеловер а верујем да је и за њих добра Мозила.
Novi Firefox je previše loš. drži svaki drugi trenutak. Aplikacija ne pregledava željene rezultate. Krug se rotira satima bez ikakvih rezultata. Jednostavne riječi - strašno.
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Nesto u vezi firefoxa i chroma.
Former Mozilla exec: Google has sabotaged Firefox for years
Former and current Mozilla engineers are reaching their boiling points.
A former high-ranking Mozilla executive has accused Google of intentionally and systematically sabotaging Firefox over the past decade in order to boost Chrome's adoption.
He is not the first Firefox team member to come forward and make such accusations in the past eight months; however, his allegations span far beyond current events and accuse Google of carrying out a coordinated plan that involved introducing small bugs on its sites that would only manifest for Firefox users.
OOPS AFTER OOPS
Johnathan Nightingale, a former General Manager and Vice President of the Firefox group at Mozilla, described these issues as "oopses."
"When I started at Mozilla in 2007 there was no Google Chrome, and most folks we spoke with inside [Google] were Firefox fans," Nightingale recollected in a Twitter thread on Saturday.
"When Chrome launched things got complicated, but not in the way you might expect. They had a competing product now, but they didn't cut ties, break our search deal - nothing like that. In fact, the story we kept hearing was, 'We're on the same side. We want the same things'," the former Mozilla exec said.
"I think our friends inside Google genuinely believed that. At the individual level, their engineers cared about most of the same things we did. Their product and design folks made many decisions very similarly, and we learned from watching each other.
"But Google as a whole is very different than individual googlers," Nightingale said.
"Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms. Gmail & [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox. Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible'," he said.
"All of this is stuff you're allowed to do to compete, of course. But we were still a search partner, so we'd say 'hey what gives?' And every time, they'd say, 'oops. That was accidental. We'll fix it in the next push in 2 weeks.'
"Over and over. Oops. Another accident. We'll fix it soon. We want the same things. We're on the same team. There were dozens of oopses. Hundreds maybe?"
"I'm all for 'don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence' but I don't believe Google is that incompetent. I think they were running out the clock. We lost users during every oops. And we spent effort and frustration every clock tick on that instead of improving our product. We got outfoxed for a while and by the time we started calling it what it was, a lot of damage had been done," Nightingale said.
NOT THE FIRST ACCUSATIONS
And Nightingale is not the first Firefox team member to come forward and make such accusations. In July 2018, Mozilla Program Manager Chris Peterson accused Google of intentionally slowing down YouTube performance on Firefox.
He revealed that both Firefox and Edge were superior when loading YouTube content when compared to Chrome, and in order to counteract this performance issue, Google switched to using a JavaScript library for YouTube that they knew wasn't supported by Firefox.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/
Former Mozilla exec: Google has sabotaged Firefox for years
Former and current Mozilla engineers are reaching their boiling points.
A former high-ranking Mozilla executive has accused Google of intentionally and systematically sabotaging Firefox over the past decade in order to boost Chrome's adoption.
He is not the first Firefox team member to come forward and make such accusations in the past eight months; however, his allegations span far beyond current events and accuse Google of carrying out a coordinated plan that involved introducing small bugs on its sites that would only manifest for Firefox users.
OOPS AFTER OOPS
Johnathan Nightingale, a former General Manager and Vice President of the Firefox group at Mozilla, described these issues as "oopses."
"When I started at Mozilla in 2007 there was no Google Chrome, and most folks we spoke with inside [Google] were Firefox fans," Nightingale recollected in a Twitter thread on Saturday.
"When Chrome launched things got complicated, but not in the way you might expect. They had a competing product now, but they didn't cut ties, break our search deal - nothing like that. In fact, the story we kept hearing was, 'We're on the same side. We want the same things'," the former Mozilla exec said.
"I think our friends inside Google genuinely believed that. At the individual level, their engineers cared about most of the same things we did. Their product and design folks made many decisions very similarly, and we learned from watching each other.
"But Google as a whole is very different than individual googlers," Nightingale said.
"Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms. Gmail & [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox. Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible'," he said.
"All of this is stuff you're allowed to do to compete, of course. But we were still a search partner, so we'd say 'hey what gives?' And every time, they'd say, 'oops. That was accidental. We'll fix it in the next push in 2 weeks.'
"Over and over. Oops. Another accident. We'll fix it soon. We want the same things. We're on the same team. There were dozens of oopses. Hundreds maybe?"
"I'm all for 'don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence' but I don't believe Google is that incompetent. I think they were running out the clock. We lost users during every oops. And we spent effort and frustration every clock tick on that instead of improving our product. We got outfoxed for a while and by the time we started calling it what it was, a lot of damage had been done," Nightingale said.
NOT THE FIRST ACCUSATIONS
And Nightingale is not the first Firefox team member to come forward and make such accusations. In July 2018, Mozilla Program Manager Chris Peterson accused Google of intentionally slowing down YouTube performance on Firefox.
He revealed that both Firefox and Edge were superior when loading YouTube content when compared to Chrome, and in order to counteract this performance issue, Google switched to using a JavaScript library for YouTube that they knew wasn't supported by Firefox.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/
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Ma razlika medju njima je sto za You Tbe,za Mozillu treba Flash Plyer,a za Chrome ne treba.Sada je i mala razlika u postavkama.Koristim Mozillu,a zena Chrome,sve zavisi od apdejta.nekada Mozilla brza,nekada Chrome.
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Kakav crni flash player za YouTube kada je HTML5 odavno zaživeo.
Čitaš li ti šta sam postavio..
Čitaš li ti šta sam postavio..
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A i ovo je intersantno
Microsoft potvrdio da pravi svoj Chrome, Mozilla se naljutila
Microsoft-ov korporativni potpredsednik Joe Belfiore, službeno je potvrdio vest o kojoj smo pisali ovih dana, da se internet browser Edge gasi i u Windows 10 stiže novi temeljen na Google-ovom Chromiumu, mada je to rekao na malo drugačiji način. Naime, ime Microsoft Edge će i dalje ostati, ali kompletan browser će biti redizajniran i prebačen na Google-ov open source Chromium engine. To znači da će postati kompatibilan sa svim Google-ovim ekstenzijama i servisima, odnosno iznutra će postati klon Chrome-a, dok će spolja i dalje glumiti Microsoft-ov proizvod, mada bi bilo zgodno da se i zove Microsoft Chrome.
Google je nakon ove objave Belfiore-a pozdravio odluku Microsoft-a, pa je portparol kompanije rekao: "Chrome je oduvek bio prvak open weba, a mi pozdravljamo ulazak Microsoft-a među Chromium doprinosioce".
S druge strane Mozilli se ovo nikako ne dopada, pa kaže da će time Google steći preveliku prednost na tržištu browsera, a Firefox će ostati jedini borac za "pravi otvoreni web".
Prvi preview build novog (preuređenog) Microsoft-ovog browsera trebao bi se pojaviti početkom 2019. godine.
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Koristim , radi odlicno , dev verziju , canary me ne zanima tu tek ima bagova.
Znas onu ... ako ne mozes da ih pobedis ... pridruzi im se ... svakako ce uzeti koji procenat od Chroma , smanjice dominaciju.
Otvarati i koristiti novi layout YT na novom Edge i Firefoxu je zaista neuporedivo brze u korist Edge (chromiumu) ...
FF mi je i dalje default browser ali koristicu i ovaj novi Edge , treci browser mi ne treba a pogotovo ne Chrome (ultra bloat).
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И за Хром треба флеш плејер али када је у питању Гуглов Хром он долази у оквиру њега (Гугл је писао посебну верзију) док код осталих Хромијум базираних интернет прегледача мора посебно да се дода флеш плејер исто као и за ФФ.
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По питању YT у питању је нешто што је Гугл перфидно одрадио и наместио тако да се на Гугловом Хрому (и донекле на осталим Хромијум базираним програмима) много брже отварају видое клипови због предучитавања која омогућава сам прегледач (хромијум базиран).
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Da , inače ne koristim flash na ff, tačnije ne treba mi, palo je brisanje plugina.
Za pregled video klipova na netu se mahom koristi HTML5 tako da tu Adobe flash otpada.
A plus ne igram igre , one flash...upotreba bušnog fleša je sve manja.
Za pregled video klipova na netu se mahom koristi HTML5 tako da tu Adobe flash otpada.
A plus ne igram igre , one flash...upotreba bušnog fleša je sve manja.
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To je Flash treba Mozilli sada samo za igrice,a HTML5 se sada sam integrise u pretrazivac.mada ne na svim verzijama,ali na ovim novijim.U nekim verzijama ranije se moralo ubacivati u Add- ons,u novije ne treba,posle prvog pokusaja na You Tube se sam integrise.
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Mitomaniji nikad kraja , naime vecina i ne zna da je html5 daleko kompleksniji od adobe flasha i otvoren je standard.
Mozes igrati i igre bez adobe flasha.
https://html5games.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML5_and_Flash
A sta da ti kazes , Chromium based pretrazivaci kidaju po pitanju podrske za html5.
Mozes igrati i igre bez adobe flasha.
https://html5games.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML5_and_Flash
A sta da ti kazes , Chromium based pretrazivaci kidaju po pitanju podrske za html5.
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Jeste.meni unuk kada dodje igra igrice sa Chrome-a.Poneke mu na Nickelodeonu traze Flash,ali uglavnom nema problema sa HTML5.
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Видиш није све до митова, има нешто и у стварности.. Нпр жена ми игра неке игре које се и даље возе преко флеш плејера... Замисли моје муке кад је старија верзија Јандекса престала да буде употребљива за ту игру а ни један други није хтео да покрене (ни ФФ ни Хромијум...).
Срећом па сам се досетио и инсталирао последњу верзију Јандекса... (нико срећнији од мене - коначно мир у кући...).
Све у свему, да још увек има садржаја који се покрећу преко флеш плејера...
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Koliko rupetina ima odavno je trebao biti penzionisan.
A za igrice su samo izgovori, ima milion alatki koje konvertuju flash u HTML5...
Slično kako su silni sajtovi pornja:e prešli sa flash na HTML5 [emoji1787]
A za igrice su samo izgovori, ima milion alatki koje konvertuju flash u HTML5...
Slično kako su silni sajtovi pornja:e prešli sa flash na HTML5 [emoji1787]
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Problem je u tim pretrazivacima sto cesto apdejtuju i naparave vise problama nego sto poprave,pa posle vremenski,podolaze,ali taman se naviknes na njegov rad,ono ponovo apdejt,a ako mu zabranis automatski apdejt,odmah pocnu pojedini adonovi da gube rad i nece da ide na neke sajtove koje si posecivao redovno.Ide,ali mu treba vek da ga otvori.I onda moras na kraju da ga apdejtujes.probao sam sa Operom,bila dobra iz pocetka,ali i sa njom poceli zezalice.
