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Saraceni je takođe izvorno bilo ime ovih ljudi... izvorno to je bilo ime ne-Arapa sa kojima su se Rimljani susretali u severozapadnoj Arabiji kod sinajskog poluostrva...
Seriani koji vladaju Crvenim morem?,,,,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saracens
ko su Saraceni u vreme Marka Aurelija ako nisu Arapi?
The Saracens, however, whom we never found desirable either as friends or as enemies, ranging up and down the country, in a brief space of time laid waste whatever they could find, like rapacious kites which, whenever they have caught sight of any prey from on high, seize it with swift swoop, and directly they have seized it make off. [2] Although I recall having told of their customs in my history of the emperor Marcus, 1 and several times after that, yet I will now briefly relate a few more particulars about them. [3] Among those tribes whose original abode extends from the Assyrians to the cataracts of the Nile and the frontiers of the Blemmyae all alike are warriors of equal rank, half-nude, clad in dyed cloaks as far as the loins, ranging widely with the help of swift horses and slender camels in times of peace or of disorder. No man ever grasps a plough-handle or cultivates a tree, none seeks a living by tilling the soil, but they rove continually over wide and extensive tracts without a home, without fixed abodes or laws; they cannot long endure the same sky, nor does the sun of a single district ever content them. [4] Their life is always on the move, and they have mercenary wives, hired under a temporary contract. But in order that there may be some semblance of matrimony, the future wife, by way of dower, offers [p. 29] her husband a spear and a tent, with the right to leave him after a stipulated time, if she so elect: and it is unbelievable with what ardour both sexes give themselves up to passion. [5] Moreover, they wander so widely as long as they live, that a woman marries in one place, gives birth in another, and rears her children far away, without being allowed any opportunity for rest. [6] They all feed upon game and an abundance of milk, which is their main sustenance, on a variety of plants, as well as on such birds as they are able to take by fowling; and I have seen many of them who were wholly unacquainted with grain and wine. [7] So much for this dangerous tribe. Let us now return to our original theme.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0082:book=14:chapter=4&highlight=saracens
u pitanju su nomadi ratnici poput Sarmata....ljudi kojima je zemljoradnja nepoznat pojam...
Saraceni žive od Asiraca pa do brana na Nilu i do Nubije (Blemmyae)...ovo znači da žive u Siriji (moguće i u Kapadokiji gde Strabo oba plemena naziva belim Sirijcima), Izraelu, delovima Saudi Arabije, delovima Egipta zapadno od Nila i u Etiopiji i Sudanu (npr. grad Kartum)...takođe Saraceni se u istoriji pominju i vezano za oblast Kartagine što je i logično s obzirom na to da su Feničani iz Sirije a da se Kartagina razvija kao njihova kolonija....
po meni Saraceni su u drevna vremena dobri kandidati za Sherdana ljude po kojima se jezero živo blato na Sinajskom poluoistrvu naziva Serbonis / Serbonian bog...
u vezi ovde opisane njihove kulture, zanimljivo je da su žene "unajmljene" tj. sa njima sklapaju ugovor...i žene imaju pravo da napuste muža posle određenog vremena ako tako izaberu...
nije li ovo način na koji bi brak uredile Amazonke kada uđu u patrijarhalni svet...a po grčkim mitovima upravo Sarmati su plod Amazonki i Skita...
ostaci originalnih Saracena su danas verovatno u najvećoj meri Kurdi i Alaviti...
ime Saraceni prošireno je kasnije na Arape i na muslimane...
po meni genetski Saraceni su bili pre svega R1a ljudi, a Arapi su pre svega J1...
severno od Kavkaza među Sarmatima imamo pleme Siraci...ovi ljudi su bogati trgovci...
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In Old Norse sources, such as sagas and runestones, Særkland or Serkland was the name of the Abbasid Caliphate and probably some neighbouring Muslim regions.
Despite the obvious similarity to Saracen, the place-name is likely derived from serkr (gown, modern Swedish "särk") and land (land, country), referring to the clothes of the people that lived in the area.
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It could also be related to Sarkel, a city located in the territory of the Khazars.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serkland
Abazidski kalifat je na sledećoj slici
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate
zahvata zemlje Saracena, Kurda, Shirwan, Iran i zemlje Međana.... dakle ime važi za Saracene plus oblasti gde su Seres ljudi Pomponijusa Mele i plus oblasti Irana i Arabije koje su udaljene od Vikinga... dakle Vikinzi koji putuju u Abazidski kalifat imaju pre svega dodir sa Seres i Saracenima...otud Serkland..
dalje to je narod čije ime Vikinzi etimološki vezuju za odeću "särk"...
Seres upravo prepoznaju po rečima za svilu a na istoku po rečima za odeću
na zapadu njihovo ime je vezano za reč "svila" jer su kako Seneka kaže po tome poznati...
The Seres (Gr. Σῆρες, Lat. Sērēs) were inhabitants of the land Serica, named by the ancient Greek and Roman.[1] It meant "of silk," or people of the "land where silk comes from," and is thought to derive from the Chinese word for silk, si (Traditional Chinese: 絲; Simplified Chinese: 丝; pinyin: sī). It is itself at the origin of the Latin for "silk", sērĭcă.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serica
svila se u Indiji proizvodi od pamtiveka...još u civilizaciji doline Inda.... imena Ind i Indija mogla bi biti istog porekla kao Venedi / Veneti..radi se po meni o plemenskim imenima koja se šire sa R1a haplogrupom......
Silk, known as "Paat" in Eastern India, Pattu in southern parts of India and Resham in North India has a long history in India. Recent archaeological discoveries in Harappa and Chanhu-daro suggest that sericulture, employing wild silk threads from native silkworm species, existed in South Asia during the time of the Indus Valley Civilization dating between 2450 BC and 2000 BC, while "hard and fast evidence" for silk production in China dates back to around 2570 BC.[17][18]
tamo se svila zove ne Seres nego Pattu i Resham
moguće je da su ovo reči vezane za Patan (Paštun, Pakistanac) i Resham (Rašani...pra-Rusi)
na istoku razni delovi odeće se zovu ili su se zvali: Zar (muslimani), Sari (Indija) Sherwani (indija), 'ezor (kod Jevreja),...
The Sherwani originated in South Asia and was the court dress of nobles of the royals of India, before being more generally adopted in the late eighteenth century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwani
dakle Sherwani je odeća najviše kaste a najviša kasta u Indiji uglavnom ima R1a1 haplogrupu i belji su od ostalih...
na kraju, zemlja Særkland / Serkland o kojoj govore Vikizi je po nekim tumačima možda vezana za grad Sarkel kojim upravljaju Hazari... Hazari su naravno narod trgovci...
a Sarkel prestonica nacije trgovaca Hazara je po svome imenu "beli grad"...baš kao što je naša prestonica danas Beograd..
Sarkel (or Sharkil, literally white house in Khazar language)[1] was a large limestone-and-brick fortress built by the Khazars with Byzantine assistance in the 830s. It was named white-house because of the white limestone bricks they have used to build Sarkel. Sarkel was located on the left bank of the lower Don River, in present-day Rostov Oblast of Russia.
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The city served as a bustling commercial center, as it controlled the Volga-Don portage, which was used by the Rus to cross from the Black Sea to the Volga and thence to the Caspian; the route was known as the "Khazarian Way". A garrison fortified at Sarkel included Oghuz and Pecheneg mercenaries.
Sarkel's fortress and city were captured by Kievan Rus' under prince Sviatoslav I in 965. The city was renamed Bila Vezha (Slavic for White Tower or White Fortress) and settled by Slavs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarkel
nije li Sart i Ak-Sart (beli Sart) ustvari isto ime kao KHazar i Azer? mi danas znamo npr. da Azeri verovatno dobrim delom potiču od kavkaskih i/ili iranskih naroda koji su turkizovani ... slično je verovatno bilo sa Hazarima koji su zarad političke i religiozne neutralnosti uzeli jevrejsku veru i jezik ...da su bili turkijski narod ne bi im trebala politička neutralnost u dominantno turkijskom okruženju...