Da li Netanyahu sprema Izraelce za rat ?

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Dromy: Netanyahu sprema Izraelce za rat

6 mart 2012 Izmijenjeno 18:34 CETPriprema nas za rat, a to nije pametna igra, nego kockanje, rekao glasnogovornik bivšeg premijera Yitzhaka Rabina.

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Izraelski premijer govorio pred moćnom proizraelskom lobističkom organizacijom AIPAC u Washingtonu [Reuters]

Beskompromisan govor izraelskog premijera Binyamina Netanyahua u Washingtonu, u kojem je lobirao za "izraelsku stvar", uvjerio je domaću javnost da je sukob s Iranom neizbježan.
Netanyahu je podsjetio na grozote holokausta, citirajući pismo iz 1944. u kojem je SAD odbacio zahtjev jevrejskih čelnika za bombardiranjem nacističkog logora Auschwitz.
Njegova poruka je jasna: Izrael se ne može osloniti na druge u obrani vlastitog naroda.
Pištolj ne samo da je napunjen, nego je spušten osigurač", rekao je Izraelskom radiju Uzi Dayan, bivši generaln i savjetnik za nacionalnu sigurnosti.
"Kao izraelski premijer, neću nikada dopustiti da moj narod bude u sjeni uništenja", rekao je Netanyahu pred moćnom proizraelskom lobističkom organizacijom AIPAC nakon sastanka s američkim predsjednikom Barackom Obamom.
Zaoštren ton
"Čekali smo da vidimo što će postići diplomatija, čekali smo da vidimo kako će djelovati sankcije. Ne možemo priuštiti da čekamo predugo", istaknuo je.
Te su riječi odjeknule u Izraelu gdje analitičari, komentatori i bivši vojni dužnosnici ocjenjuju kako se zaoštrio ton prema Iranu, koji je otvoreno pozvao na uništenje Izraela.
"Pištolj ne samo da je napunjen, nego je spušten osigurač", rekao je Izraelskom radiju Uzi Dayan, bivši generaln i savjetnik za nacionalnu sigurnosti.
Izrael je nepopustljiv u stavu da Iranu neće dopustiti proizvodnju nuklearnog oružja i "pritišće" Washington da bude oštriji prema Teheranu kako bi ga prisilio da obustavi sporni nuklearni program.
Iran uporno tvrdi da je program isključivo mirnodopski, u što vjeruje malo zapadnih država, a SAD i EU uvode sve oštrije ekonomske sankcije kako bi Teheran odustao od programa i vratio se pregovorima.
Izraelski stručnjaci smatraju da će sankcije uroditi plodom samo ako iza njih stoji vjerodostojna vojna prijetnja.
To je skeptike navelo da povjeruju kako je Netanyahuova retorika samo predstava za javnost, no riječi koje je upotrijebio otišle su tako daleko da će Netanyahu izgubiti kredibilitet u domaćoj javnosti ako se pokaže da se radilo o običnom "blefu", upozoravaju stručnjaci.
Izraelska pozicija proistječe iz tzv. "Beginove doktrine", nazvane prema bivšem izraelskom premijeru Menachemu Beginu koji je 1981. naredio zračni udar na iranski reaktor sumnjajući da služi proizvodnji plutonija potrebnog za izradu nuklearnih bojnih glava.
Obama se zauzeo za to da se sankcijama da više vremena i, iako se Washington slaže s Izraelom kako je neprihvatljivo da se Iran domogne nuklearnog oružja, terminologija koju su koristili Obama i Netanyahu ponešto se razlikuje.
Dok je Obama govorio o sprječavanju Irana da se "domogne" atomske bombe, Netanyahu je govorio o tome da Iran treba spriječiti u "razvijanju" nuklearnog oružja.
Analitičari kažu kako to znači da Izrael ne želi da Iran uopće posjeduje dijelove i materijale potrebne za izradu bombe.
Washington bi, pak, reagirao samo ako se pokaže da Teheran aktivno pokušava sastaviti te dijelove.
Izraelska pozicija proistječe iz tzv. "Beginove doktrine", nazvane prema bivšem izraelskom premijeru Menachemu Beginu koji je 1981. naredio zračni udar na iranski reaktor sumnjajući da služi proizvodnji plutonija potrebnog za izradu nuklearnih bojnih glava.
Kako je Begin tada rekao, napad je dokaz da njegova zemlja "ni pod kojim okolnostima neće dopustiti da neprijatelj razvije oružje za masovno uništenje protiv našega naroda".
Netanyahuov govor bio je najjasniji izraz te doktrine otkako je 2009. preuzeo premijersku dužnost, no stručnjaci ističu kako skeptičnu javnost tek treba uvjeriti u neizbježnost rata.
'Pod kišom raketa'
"On nas priprema za rat, no nisam siguran da smo spremni za to. To nije pametna igra, nego kockanje", rekao je Uri Dromi, glasnogovornik bivšeg premijera Yitzhaka Rabina.
Prošlonedjeljna anketa pokazala je kako samo 19 posto Izraelaca smatra da bi trebali napasti Iran, čak i bez potpore Washingtona.
Brojni Izraelci se boje da zemlja nije spremna za oružani sukob, a stručnjaci procjenjuju da bi se Izrael mogao naći pod kišom raketa iz Irana i njegovih saveznika, poput Hezbolaha u Libanonu.
Slučajno ili ne, samo nekoliko sati nakon Netanyahuova govora izraelski ministar civilne zaštite Matan Vilbai poručio je preko sms:
"Izrael je sposoban presresti rakete koje bi došle s bilo kojeg mjesta na Zemlji... Svaki građanin itekako zna što treba učiniti u slučaju izvanrednog stanja".
Izvor: Agencije









realna pretnja iz irana ili pakleni cionistoički plan proširenja teritorije:zper:?

ko će tu koga, pitanje je sad.
znamo uz koga je amerika, ali....:think:
 
Poslednja izmena:
ne marim mnogo za iranske verske fanatike, ali ovde ne vidim ništa dobro, čak ni nameru:think:
ali dobro, ostavljam mogućnost da se treba obračunati sa radikalnim islamom bilo gde u svetu, mada ne verujem da je to i približan motiv..

вера је ту битна ко неки тамо понедељак-када се сложе коцкице тј када се иран проучи како функционише изнутра и када се нађу слабе тачке пар месеци медијске буке и бум.
 
ah, nisam onda lepo iscitao...tek sad vidim onaj emoticon na kraju kad sam se vratio citati opet....onda, kapiram te


pa njega sam i dodala da me više ne smaraš.
ajde na temu, leba ti.
mada...hm..što se tiče pretenzija.
jesi li pročitao ovo:

Netanyahu: No Lebanon will be on the map

01.03.2012


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President Michel Suleiman

Israel what was that about MAPS?
For years, the paranoid Israelis have been screaming bloody murder that the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said that "Israel should be wiped from the map." Of course, the man said no such thing, it was a deliberate mis-translation meant to serve their purposes: to demonize Ahmadinejad and Iran and to justify an unprovoked attack against the Islamic Republic of Iran.
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
So that should settle the disinformation campaign being waged in order to set the stage for an aggressive attack against Iran and their paranoid delusions that Iran is building a nuclear weapon in order to "wipe them off the map."
If they are nothing, they are constantly hysterical, while collecting billions annually in American taxpayer money to feed the hysteria and the lust for war and to take out those governments they don't like, preferably by proxy in the form of NATO or the US Armed Forces.

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But it's ironic. There was no fuss or screaming when Netanyahu actually told an interviewer that when Israel is done with them, there will be NO Lebanon on the new world map.
At a news conference in Switzerland, on the occasion of the building an Israeli railway there, the German newspaper Die Zeit interviewed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:
"Congratulations Mr. Netanyahu, my first question is that does the beginning of the large train line's construction confirm the announcement of the dissident Syrian Intelligence Office that you will strike Lebanon?"
In reply, Netanyahu stated:
"Yes, and it is not a secret that it will happen with U.S.-Gulf support and that is why they have been warned, but before you ask, you have a look at the new map of the world and see that there is no nation with this name."

Given that the UN Security Council has listed 388 Israeli airspace violations by Israel against Lebanon, there is no doubt what Israel is planning regarding Lebanon.
President Michel Suleiman condemned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's recent statements on Lebanon, saying that its existence will not be affected by his remarks. Odd that no one else, no big mouth, big talking, big stick western nations voiced the slightest concern that this nuclear armed, racist apartheid state, that has used weapons of mass destruction against Lebanon in the past, committing a genocide against the Lebanese people, was threatening them yet again.
He added in a statement: "Lebanon is the only country to have defeated Israel militarily and the Jewish state is still recovering from it."
Indeed, the only thing that stopped Israel in 2006 from wiping Lebanon off the map was the defense against them provided by Hezbollah, who sent them crying with their tails between their legs.
"Lebanon's diversity is the complete opposite of Israel's racist system, which has no place in the world," stressed the president.
Odd, isn't it, that all of the countries attacked by the west, enemies of Israel, can all say the same thing. That they were the models of tolerance, brotherhood, prosperity and human rights, unlike the western allies of Saudi Arabia, Qatar. etc. that are horrid feudal examples of barbaric practices and backwardness.
"Lebanon is one of the founders of the United Nations and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Netanyahu's statements reflect his contempt for humans," Suleiman added.
Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon are on high alert in anticipation of an Israeli attack on Lebanon, the London-based A-Sharq al-Awsat daily reported recently. According to the report, Hezbollah has been monitoring with caution the reinforcement of IDF troops along the Lebanon border.
It is also interesting to note that the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani, admitted that the Israeli train line is funded by Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia. Asked if he was not afraid of his people, he affirmed the close friendly relations between the two countries. Qatar, the one that has had a vested interest in formenting terrorism and and 'regime change" in Libya, Syria and elsewhere.
Isn't it odd that Israel is allowed to wave the stick at anybody it feels like with impunity, while they maintain a monopoly on nuclear weapons in the Middle East? The same country that has threatened all the capitals of Europe?



a? :zper:
 
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Natanijahu prdi, ali od samostalnog izraelskog napada na Iran nema ništa. Iranski atomski program je postao toliko razgranat i zaštićen, da ga sama izraelska avijacija ne može zaustaviti. Znaju oni to, ali proizvode medijsku halabuku, da prikriju očajnu finsijsku situaciju na zapadu.
 
Natanijahu prdi, ali od samostalnog izraelskog napada na Iran nema ništa. Iranski atomski program je postao toliko razgranat i zaštićen, da ga sama izraelska avijacija ne može zaustaviti. Znaju oni to, ali proizvode medijsku halabuku, da prikriju očajnu finsijsku situaciju na zapadu.

možda jevrejin prdi, ali se i ovaj prdonja oglasio tim povodom:

Obama Iranu: Ne blefiram vojnom opcijom

3 mart 2012 Izmijenjeno 08:05 CETPredsjednik SAD-a najoštrije upozorio na spremnost da pribjegne vojnim opcijama zbog nuklearnog programa Irana.


Rekavši da je neprihvatljivo da Iran napravi atomsko oružje Obama je istaknuo:
"Ne blefiram".
"Mislim da i iranska i izraelska vlada uviđaju da kada Sjedinjene Američke Države kažu da je neprihvatljivo da Iran ima nuklearno oružje mi mislimo što kažemo", rekao je Obama u razgovoru za časopis Atlantic.


U razgovoru je Obama rekao da misli da su međunarodne sankcije Iranu bile "mnogo učinkovitije no što je bilo tko očekivao" i da su dale priliku da se problem trajno riješi.
No Obama je izjavio i da ako sankcije ne uspiju, Sjedinjene Države ne isključuju bilo koju opciju.
On je dodao da je u "dubokom" interesu ne samo Izraela nego i SAD-a da se Iranu ne dopusti da dođe do nuklearnog oružja.
 
mutavi obama je na mukama.
uostalom, činjenica je da on mora na svaki način da sačuva pordšku američkih jevreja od kojih je 78% glasalo za njega 2008 god.
sa druge strane, atmosfera među građanima izraela uopšte nije naklonjena netanyahu-ovim ratnim pokličima.
šta da radi mučeni obama, a još mu za vrat duva i saudi arabija koja opet protura svoje interese u celoj priči?

a sa iranske strane, hamnei se kune kako "on s tem nema ništa" :

While addressing a gathering of Iranian nuclear scientists, Khamenei said:
The purpose of the uproar they [the West] cause is to stop us. They know that we are not after nuclear weapons. They already know this. I do not have any doubts that in the countries that are opposed to us, the organizations in charge of decision-making are fully aware that we are not after nuclear weapons.

Nuclear weapons are not at all beneficial to us. Moreover, from an ideological and [velayat-e] faqihperspective, we consider developing nuclear weapons as unlawful. We consider using such weapons as a big sin. We also believe that keeping such weapons is futile and dangerous, and we will never go after them. They know this, but they stress the issue in order to stop our movement.​


zaebano skroz:think:
 
World considers US, Israel threat not Iran: Chomsky
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American scholar Noam Chomsky

Sun Mar 4, 2012 1:53PM GMT







Western commentary has made much of how the Arab dictators allegedly support the US position on Iran, while ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the population opposes it—a stance too revealing to require comment.”
Noam Chomsky


American scholar Noam Chomsky says the world does not accept the US portrayal of Iran as an “imminent threat” to global peace, and that Washington and Tel Aviv are instead seen as greater evils.


“There is little credible discussion of just what constitutes the Iranian threat, though we do have an authoritative answer, provided by US military and intelligence. Their presentations to Congress make it clear that Iran doesn’t pose a military threat,” Chomsky wrote in his latest article titled “What Are Iran’s Intensions?” published Friday.

Chomsky added that even "the majority of Americans" recognized Iran’s right to its nuclear energy program before Washington officials and media launched a “massive propaganda onslaught” against the Islamic Republic over the past two years.

He added that presently powerful countries like Russia, China, India, and 120 member nations of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) oppose the US policy on Iran.

“Western commentary has made much of how the Arab dictators allegedly support the US position on Iran, while ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the population opposes it-a stance too revealing to require comment,” he said.

Instead, Chomsky said, “Europeans regard Israel as the greatest threat to world peace,” and in the Arab world he added, “Israel and the US are regarded as the pre-eminent threat.”

The United States, Israel, and some of their allies accuse Iran of pursuing military objectives in its nuclear energy program and have used this pretext to impose international and unilateral sanctions on the Islamic Republic and to call for a military strike against Tehran.

Iran has repeatedly refuted the Western allegations, arguing that as a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it is entitled to develop and acquire nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

Israel, which is widely believed to be the sole possessor of a nuclear arsenal in the Middle East with over 200 undeclared nuclear warheads, pursues the policy of "deliberate ambiguity" on its nuclear program.

Tel Aviv has rejected global demands to join the NPT and does not allow IAEA inspectors to observe its controversial nuclear program.

Iran has always pursued the policy of nuclear transparency and has granted IAEA inspectors access to its nuclear facilities to
 
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realna pretnja iz irana ili pakleni cionistoički plan proširenja teritorije:zper:?

ko će tu koga, pitanje je sad.
znamo uz koga je amerika, ali....:think:
Ovde sam neodlučan I TO BAŠ.
U JEDNO SAM SIGURAN.
Najbolje za Izrael uovom slučaju je da se ostavi takve vojno huškačke politike prema susedima.
Mislim da Izrael treba, ČAK I PO CENU gubitka podrške SAD, da otpočne drugačiju ppolitiku prema susednim zemljama.
U početku će biti teško jer će najverovatnije i izraelska ekonomija ispaštati zbog gubitka podrške SAD ali na duže staze moglo bi da se dođe do neuporedivo opuštenije sitvacije koja bi uvela KOMPLETAN REGION u mirnije vode.

Ovako Izrael zarad dobrog života žrtvuje i igra se Izraelskim životima.
 

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