PORUKA SIPTARIMA I BJRMOVCE OD GRCKU

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SIPTARI SU NAJPRE SAMI POTPISALI ZA AUTONOMIJU OVOG REGIONA ALI ALBANIJA JE PALA SA POCETAK PRVOG SVETSKOG TAKO OVAJ SPORAZUM NIKADA NIJE BIO IMPLEMENTIRAN !

SIPTARI NEK SE POVUCE OD SEVERNI EPIR GDE I DANAS VECINA SU GRCI
ISTORIJSKA PRAVA ZA OVAJ REGION PRIPADAJU GRCIMA !
SIPTARI NEKOLIKO PUTA SU SE SPASILI OD PREDAJU OVOG REGIONA NAROCITO U DRUGI SVETSKI RAT GDE SU BILI ITALIJANSKA MARIONETSKA TVOREVINA !
ISTORIJSKA NEPRAVDA VELIKIH SILA DA OVAJ REGION BUDE VRACEN ALBANIJI I TO NEKOLIKO PUTA JOS NIKO NIJE ISPRAVIO !



GRANICE SEVERNOG EPIRA UNUTRA ALBANIJE


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PORUKA OD GRCKU ORGANIZACIJU EPEK ZA SIPTARE I BJRMOVCE



ZASTAVA SEVERNOEPIRSKE REPUBLIKE

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GRCI U SEVERNI EPIR/''JUZNA ALBANIJA''

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Poslednja izmena:
Grcki severnoepiroti u Ameriku

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Ako tako hoces gladati mislim"realno" , onda treba Grci svih da napustaju Grcku jer nije njihova :mrgreen:
A za Epir "Malo Morgen Patrijarhu " , sami si rekao pre neki dan da su nas maskrirali i isterali od Epira .
Ova tema mislim je za Istoriju , a ti neznam koji si :mrgreen:
 
Ako tako hoces gladati mislim"realno" , onda treba Grci svih da napustaju Grcku jer nije njihova :mrgreen:
A za Epir "Malo Morgen Patrijarhu " , sami si rekao pre neki dan da su nas maskrirali i isterali od Epira .
Ova tema mislim je za Istoriju , a ti neznam koji si :mrgreen:

vi ste bili mala manjina u juzni Epir -Chami -siptari muslimani koji su bili naseljivani od turaka
vi ste dosli na Grcku zemju ne mi na vasu
to treba da ti bude jasno
vi ste se naselili u nasu kucu u kucu koja je NASA i mi smo bili tu pre vas ;)

docice opet kao nekad samo polako
istorija se ponavlja
 
vi ste bili mala manjina u juzni Epir -Chami -siptari muslimani koji su bili naseljivani od turaka
vi ste dosli na Grcku zemju ne mi na vasu
to treba da ti bude jasno
vi ste se naselili u nasu kucu u kucu koja je NASA i mi smo bili tu pre vas ;)

docice opet kao nekad samo polako
istorija se ponavlja

Otvori jednu slicni Themu u Topic-
"Istorija" pa da vidimo ko od dakle dosao , oni ili mi .
Znam da neces doci jer ces izgubiti :mrgreen:
 
Otvori jednu slicni Themu u Topic-
"Istorija" pa da vidimo ko od dakle dosao , oni ili mi .
Znam da neces doci jer ces izgubiti :mrgreen:

komentirishi tu
sta ima veze


vi siptare nemate sanse da budete anticki i to moze odma da se vidi po tome sto vi nista niste doprinjeli covecanstva ni u sport ni u nauci ni istoriju ni nista !

prva drzava ste dobili u 1912 i to zbog strah velikih sila od srbiju koja bi imala veliki izlaz na Jadrana i Jonskog mora ...
 
komentirishi tu
sta ima veze


vi siptare nemate sanse da budete anticki i to moze odma da se vidi po tome sto vi nista niste doprinjeli covecanstva ni u sport ni u nauci ni istoriju ni nista !

prva drzava ste dobili u 1912 i to zbog strah velikih sila od srbiju koja bi imala veliki izlaz na Jadrana i Jonskog mora ...

Koje ovde dosao mi ??
Samo pogledaj koja je godina , manje nego pre 100 godina :mrgreen:

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Population exchange between Greece and Turkey

The 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey is the first large-scale population exchange, or agreed mutual expulsion in the 20th century. It involved some two million people, most of them forcibly made refugees and "de jure" denaturalized from homelands of centuries or millennia, in a treaty promoted and overseen by the international community as part of the Treaty of Lausanne Fact|date=October 2008. The document about the population exchange was signed at Lausanne, Switzerland in 1923, between the governments of Greece and Turkey. The exchange took place between Turkish citizens of the Greek Orthodox religion established in Turkish territory, and of Greek citizens of the Muslim religion established in Greek territory.

Evi i link : http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/1881938

Do tada pricalo se Albanski tamo (Sok jeli) , i ako se mucis malo isti link mozesh ga dobiti i na Srpski .
 
Ili mozda Turski Krscani ?
43. “A concise history of Greece“ By Richard Clogg
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turski hriscani:worth:

imalo je jedan narod pod imenom Karamandeli koji je bio oko 200,000 i pricao je turski a bio hriscanski i to je sve !
al to u izvorima kaze da su bili Grci koji prihvatili turski jezik !


opet pitam sta ima veze ovo sa to sto siptari su dosli tu posle grka i uzeli teritorija koja je pripadala antickim Grcima !



cak ni iliri koje prisvajate od nedavno i koji su bili narod sa civilizaciju za razliku od dive siptare nisu bili prisutni u Epir

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turski hriscani:worth:

imalo je jedan narod pod imenom Karamandeli koji je bio oko 200,000 i pricao je turski a bio hriscanski i to je sve !
al to u izvorima kaze da su bili Grci koji prihvatili turski jezik !


opet pitam sta ima veze ovo sa to sto siptari su dosli tu posle grka i uzeli teritorija koja je pripadala antickim Grcima !



cak ni iliri koje prisvajate od nedavno i koji su bili narod sa civilizaciju za razliku od dive siptare nisu bili prisutni u Epir

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Ne zove se nas Premijer Kara-man -lis nego njihov , idi u translate i gledaj jer ti daje sta od turski na srpski ili za bivsi njihov Premijer Kara-dzaferis :mrgreen: ?

I neznam zasto pise svuda da su Turski-Otrhodoxi ?
The British Quarterly Review
By Robert Vaughan, Henry Allon page 200
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Pa nisam ja te knjige napisao :mrgreen:

opet pitam sta ima veze ovo sa to sto siptari su dosli tu posle grka i uzeli teritorija koja je pripadala antickim Grcima !
Nisu uzeli nista Albanci od njih nego sprotivno Mister Patrijarhu , tamo se govorilo Albanski , ni manje ni vise nego samo-do pre 1-og veka .

Turski jezik nekako slican njima ,a Mister Patrijarhu ( daj priznaj sada)
TURKISH ENGLISH GREEK

Adet Custom Adeti
Afaroz Excommunicate Aforismos
Aga Land owner Agas
Ahmak Idiot Ahmakis
Ahtapot Octopus Htapodi
Alan Area, ground Alana
Alarga Open sea, distant Alarga
Aman For mercy's sake Aman
Anadolu Anatolia (East in Greek) Anatoli
Ananas Pineapple Ananas
Anason Aniseed Anithos
Anfora Anchor Amphoreus
Angarya Forced labor Angaria
Aptal Stupid Abdalis
Apukurya Carnival Apokria
Arap Negro, bogyman Arapis
Arnavut Albanian Arnautis
Asik Someone in love Asikis
Atlet Athlete Athlitis
Avanak Gullible, stupid Avanakis
Ayran A drink Ariani

Baba - Father - Babas
Baca - Chimney - Batzias
Bacak - Leg, leg of trousers in G.- Batzaki
Bacanak - Brother in law - Batjanakis
Baglama - A string instrument - Baglamas
Bahce - Garden - Bahtses
Bahsis - Tip - Baxisi
Bakir - Copper - Bakiri
Bakkal - Grocer - Bakkalis
Baklava - Baklava - Baklavas
Balta - Ax - Baltas
Bamya - Okra - Bamia
Barbunya - A fish - Barbunia
Barut - Gunpowder - Baruti
Battaniye - Woolen Blanket - Batania
Batakci - Swindler - Bataxis
Bayrak - Flag - Bairaki
Bekar - Batchelor - Bekiaris
Bekri - Drunk - Bekris
Bela - Trouble - Belas
Benzin - Petrol, gas - Benzina
Bereket - Abundance, plenty - Bereket
Beton - Concrete - Beton
Bey - Mr. - Beis
Bezelye - Pea - Bizeli
Biber - Pepper - Piperi
Biftek - Steak - Bifteki
Bodrum - Cellar, dungeon - Boudroumi
Bomba - Bomb - Bomba
Bostan - Vegetable field, garden - Bostani
Bora - Storm - Bora
Boya - Paint - Bogia
Borek - Pastry, pie - Boureki
Bre - Hi, you - Vre
Budala - Idiot - Boudalas
Bulgur - Boiled wheat - Bligouri
But - Thigh - Bouti
Buz - Ice, very cold - Bouzi
Buzuki - Bouzouki - Bouzouki

Cacik - A drink with cucumbers- Tzatziki
Caka - Swagger, vanity - Tsaka
Cam - Window pane - Tzami
Cami - Mosque - Tzami
Cambaz - Acrobat, dealer in G.- Tzambazis
Cenabet - Crabbed person - Tzanabetis
Cep - Pocket - Tsepi
Cereme - Fine or cost of damage- Tzeremes
Cezve - Coffee Pot - Tzesves
Ciger - Liver, lungs - Tziyeri
Cimbiz - Tweezers - Tsimpida
Cuce - Dwarf - Tsutzes
Cadir - Tent - Tsiantiri
Cakirkeyif - Slightly drunk - Tsakir-kefi
Cali - Thorny plant - Tsiali
Calim - Flexibility, show off - Tsalimi
Cam - Pine tree - Tsami
Canak - Shallow bowl - Tsanaki
Canta - Handbag - Tsanta
Capacul - Untidy - Tsapatulis
Capari - Weight anchor - Tsapari
Capkin - Seducer, coquettish - Tsahpinis
Capraz - Crossed - Tsaprazi
Cardak - Hut of dried branches - Tsardaki
Carsi - Market - Charsi
Carik - Rustic shoe - Tsarouhi
Catal - Fork - Tsatala
Catra Patra - Stumbling speech - Tsatra patra
Cavus- Sergeant - Tsausis
Cay - Tea - Tsai
Celebi - Pleasant man, mentor - Tselebis
Cember - Circle - Tsemperi
Cengel - Hook - Tsingeli
Ciklet - Chewing gum - Tsikla
Ciftetelli- A dance - siftetelli
Ciftlik - Large country estate - Tsifliki
Cifit - Tight in money - Tsifoutis
Cimento - Cement - Tsimento
Cinko - Zinc - Tsingos
Ciftlik - Big farm, property - Tsifliki
Cirak - Apprentice - Tsiraki
Cipura- A fish - Tsipura
Ciroz - A fish - Tsiros
Coban - Shepherd - Tsobanis
Corap - Woolen sock- Tsurapis
Corba - soup - Tsorbas
Corek - Large bun - Tsoureki
Cotra - File fish - Tsotra

Dalavere - Trick, deceit- Dalavere
Dalga - Wave (sorrow,love in G.)- Dalka
Dantel - Lace - Ntantella
Darbuka - Drum - Ntarbuka
Davul - Drum - Ntauli
Defne - Laurel - Dafni
Defter- Notebook - Tefteri
Demet - Bouquet- Demati
Dervis - Dervish - Dervisis
Dert - Sorrow, trouble- Derti
Despot - Despot - Despotis
Diploma- Diploma- Diploma
Direk- Pole - Ntereki
Divan- Sofa - Divani
Diyakos - Deacon - Diakos
Dogru - Straight - Dogrou
Domates- Tomatoes - Ntomates
Dolap- Cupboard- Ntoulapi
Dolma - Stuffed leaves - Ntolmas
Drahoma - Dowry - Trahoma
Duvar- Wall - Ntouvari
Dumbelek - Small drum - Toumbeleki
Dumen - Rudder, steering wheel- Timoni
Dunya - World - Dounya
Duzine - Dozen - Ntouzina
Efendi - Gentleman - Afendis
Eksen - Axis - Axonas
Enginar - Artichoke - Anginara
Evlek - A measure of land - Avlakia

Firin Oven Fourno
Falcata Shoemaker's knife- Faltseta
Fanus Lantern, lampglass- Fanos
Faras Dust pan - Farasi

Farfara- Empty headed, frivolity- Farfara
Fasulye - Bean - Fasoulia
Fener - Lantern - Fanari
Ferman - Sultan's word - Firmani
Fincan- Cup - Flitzani
Findik- Walnut - Fountouki
Firca - Brush - Vourtsa
Firkete- Hairpin - Fourketa
Fidan - Plant, sapling - Fidani
Filozof- Philosopher- Filosofos
Fisek- Cartridge- Fiseki
Fistan- Woman's dress- Foustani
Fistik - Pistacchio Nuts - Fistiki
Fitil - Fuse - Fitili
Fol - Nest egg (Pros)- Folia
Fukara - Poor,Hopeless - Fukaras

Gaf - Mistake, blunder - Gafa
Gaile - Care ,Difficulty- Gaila
Galeta- Breadcrumbs- Galeta
Gargara - Gargle- Gargara
Gazoz - Fizzy water - Gazoza
Gem - Horse bridle - Gemi
Gemici - Sailor - Gemitzis
Gonder- Flag pole - Kontari
Goril- Gorilla - Gorillas
Gubre - Manure, fertilizer- Kopria
Gugum- Jug - Gumi
Gul - Rose - Yioulia
Guverte- Deck of a ship- Kouverta

Haber- News- Haberi
Hali- Carpet, rug - Hali
Halka- Ring - Halkas
Hamam- Turkish bath - Hamami
Hamal- Porter- Hamalis
Hancer- Short sword - Hatzari
Hap- Pill - Hapi
Harita- Map - Hartis
Haram- Waste, sin- Harami
Harem- Harem - Haremi
Harman- Blend - Harmani
Hatir- For somebody's sake,favor- Hatiri
Hava- Air, mood- Havas
Havyar- Caviar- Haviar
Havuz - Cistern, pool- Havuza
Hayvan- Animal, beast- Haivani
Helva- Halva, a desert - Halvas
Hendek- Ditch - Handaki
Hoca - Teacher, priest- Hotzas
Hora - Dance- Horos
Horon- Dance- Horos
Hovarda- Extravagant, womanizer- Houvardas
Huni- Funnel - Honi
Huy - Habit- Houi
Huzur- State of harmony - Houzouri

Ibrik- Pot- Briki

Ihlamur- Linden Tree- Flamouri
Imam - Muslim priest- Imamis
Imam Bayildi- A dish- Imam Baildi
Irgat- Agricultural worker - Ergatis
Iskelet- Skeleton - Skeletos
Ispanak- Spinach - Spanaki
Iskambil- Playing cards - Skambili
Iskarpin- Shoe - Skarpini
Iskandil- Sounding lead in guns- Skandali
Iskarmoz- Oar support - Skarmos
Iskarta- Defective - Skartos
Iskonto- Discount- Skonto
Ispinoz - Chaffinch - Spinos
Istampa - Stamp - Stampa
Istaka- Billiard cue - Steka
Istakoz - Lobster - Astakos
Istavrit- A fish - Stavritis
Istavroz - Cross - Stavros
Isteri - Hysteria - Ysteria
Istridye- Oyster - Stridi
Izgara- Grill - Skara

Kabadayi- Tough guy - Kabadais
Kabuk- Shell (of animals etc.)- Kabouki
Kadayif- Kadaif- Kadaifi
Kalabalik - Mass of people- Kalabaliki
Kalay- Solder ( A metal)- Kalai
Kalayci- Tinker- Kalaitzis
Kalamar- Squid - Kalamari
Kalfa- Assistant- Kalfas
Kaldirim- Sidewalk- Kalderimi
Kalem- Pen, chisel- Kalemi
Kalip - Form- Kaloupi
Kalpak- Fur Cap- Kalpaki
Kalpazan- Counterfeiter,lazy- Kalpouzanos
Kama- Short dagger- Kama
Kambur- Hunchback - Kampouris
Kamci- Whip- Kamtsiki
Kamyon- Truck - Kamioni
Kanal - Chanel, strait- Kanali
Kanepe- Sofa - Kanapes
Kantar- Balance - Kantari
Kapak- Cover--- Kapaki
Kaparo- Deposit- Kaparo
Kaplan- Tiger (Hawk in Greek)- Kaplani
Kaplama- Covering- Kaplamas
Karakol- Police office,police- Karakoli
Karagoz- Black eyed,a shadow figure- Karagoz
Karanfil - Carnation- Karafilli
Karamela- Candy- Karamella
Karavana- Meal in the army- Karavana
Kardes - Brother- Kardasis
Karga - Crow, a bird - Karga
Karides- Shrimp- Garides
Karpuz- Watermelon - Karpuzi
Karyola- Bed ('Nasty'woman in Greek)- Kariola
Karsi- Opposite- Karsi
Karsilama- A dance- Karsilamas
 
Poslednja izmena:
Dalje ,
Kasa - Safe, packing case- Kassa
Kasap- Butcher- Hasapis
Kasar- Yellow cheese- Kaseri
Kasket- Cap - Kasketo
Katran - Tar- Katrani
Kavga- Quarrel, fight- Kavgas
Kavurma- A type of meat cooking - Kavourmas
Kayik - Small boat - Kaiki
Kayikci - Seaman - Kaiksis
Kayisi- Apricot - Kaisi
Kaymak- Cream- Kaimaki
Kazma- Pick- Kasmas
Kebap - Kebap- Kebap
Kece- Coarse felt- Ketses
Keci- Goat- Katsika
Kefal- A fish - Kefalos
Kemence- A string instrument- Kementzes
Kelepir- Bargain - Kelepouri
Kerata- Cuckold- Keratas
Kerhane- Brothel- Kiarhanes
Kerevet- Bedstead (bed in G.)- Krevati
Kerpeten- Pliers - Kerpeteni
Kesat - Lack of bussiness- Kesati
Kese - Shallow bowl, purse in T.- Keses
Kestane - Chestnut- Kastano
Keyif- Fun - Kefi
Kiyma - Ground meat - Kimas
Kibar- Kind, gentle- Kibaris
Kiler- Store room- Kelari
Kilise - Church - Ecclisia
Kilim- Carpet - Kilimi
Kilit - Lock,( key in Greek)- Klidi
Kilot- Underpants- Kulota
Kimyon- Cumin - Kymino
Kiraz - Cherry - Kerasi
Kiremit- Tile - Keramidi
Kitap- Book - Kitapi
Klefte- Thief, theft- Kleftis
Koma - Coma - Koma
Kofte- Meatballs- Keftes
Kokona- Ugly, old woman- Kokona
Kokorec- Stuffed, grilled intestine- Kokoretsi
Kolonya- Eau de Cologne - Kolonia
Konak - Small Palace- Konaki
Konserve- Canned food - Konserva
Kopil- Small boy, rascal- Kopeli(Creten)
Korfez- Bay, gulf - Korfos
Kotra- Small boat- Kotero
Kova - Bucket- Kouvas
Kukla- Puppet, doll - Kukla
Kulanpara- Homosexual - Kolombaras
Kulube- Hut - Kalyva
Kundak- Baby carriage,gun carriage- Kontaki
Kurabiye- Cookie- Kurambies
Kutu- Box - Kouti
Kusur- Fault - Kousouri
Kuzine- Kitchen, stove- Kouzina
Kupeste- Handrail of banisters- Koupasti

Lahana- Cabbage- Lahano
Lakerda- Salted, dried fish- Lakerda
Lakirdi- Talk, gossip- Lakirdi
Levrek- Bass, a fish- Lavraki
Leylek- Stork- Leleki
Liman- Harbour- Limani
Limon- Lemon- Lemoni
Lokum- Turkish (Greek) Delight- Lukumi
Lufer- Blue fish- Luferi

Macun- Elixir,potion - Mantzuni
Makara- Spool- Makaras
Marangoz- Carpenter- Marangos
Mahmur- Sleepy - Mahmouris
Manastir- Monastery- Monastiri
Manav- Green Grocer- Manavis
Mandalina- Tangerine- Mandarini
Mangal- Grill- Mangali
Manolya- A flower- Manolia
Mantar- Mushroom- Manitari
Manyak- Maniac - Manyakos
Marazi- Morbid, hysterical- Marazi
Marul- Lettuce- Maruli
Mastika- Raki, ouzo- Mastiha
Mavna- Fishing boat- Mavna
Mavro- Negro (slang)- Mavro
Maydanoz- Parsley- Maidanos
Meltem- Summer wind- Meltemi
Menekse- Violet- Menekses
Mengene- Press, screw jack clamp- Mengeni
Mersin- Myrtle- Myrsini
Metazori- By force, by threat Me to zori
Metelik- Small money- Metaliki
Meydan- Square- Meidani
Meze- Snack- Mezes
Midye- Mussel- Mydi
Mikrop- Microbe- Mikrobio
Misafir- Guest- Musafiris
Musakka- A dish- Musakas
Musmula- A fruit- Mousmoula
Muze- Museum- Mousio

Narenciye- Orange like fruits- Nerantzi
Nargile- Tobacco pipe- Nargiles
Naz- Reluctance- Nazi

Oglan- Boy (Bad boy in G.)- Ts-oglani
Okka- Measure of weight- Oka
Okyanus- Ocean - Okeanos
Orfoz- A fish- Rofos
Orman- Forest- Roumani

Pabuc- Shoe - Papoutsi
Paca- A soup - Patsas
Pacoz- Ugly,dirty - Patsoura
Palamar- Rope for the boat- Palamari
Palamut- A fish- Palamuti
Pantalon- Trousers- Panteloni
Para- Money- Paras
Parali- Rich- Paralis
Paskalya- Easter- Pashalia
Pasta- Cake, pleat- Pasta
Pastirma- Dried meat- Pastourmas
Patates- Potatoes - Patates
Patlican- Eggplant- Patlatzani
Patirdi- Noise- Patirdi
Pazar- Market- Pazari
Panayir- Fair - Panigyri
Papara - A dish - Papara
Papaz- Priest- Papas
Parazit- Parasite- Parasito
Pavurya- Edible crab, spider crab- Kavouria
Perde- Curtain- Berdes
Pezevenk- Pimp - Pezevengis
Pide- Pita - Pita
Pilav- Rice- Pilafi
Pilaki- Beans with onion and oil- Fasolia plaki
Pirasa- Leek- Praso
Pirzola- Steak- Brizola
Piskopos- Orthodox bishop- Episkopos
Portakal- Oranges- Portokali
Rahat- Rest, relaxation- Rahati
Raki- Raki, ouzo- Raki
Recina- Resin- Retsini
Revani- A dessert- Revani
Rezil - Ridiculed, embaressment- Rezili

Sabun- Soap- Sapuni
Sahan- Small frying pan- Sagani
Sakat- Cripple- Sakatis
Salep- A hot drink- Salepi
Salya- Saliva- Salia
Salyangoz- Snail- Saliangos
Sandal- Open shoe- Sandali
Sardalya- Sardines- Sardela
Sarik- Turban- Sariki
Sarraf- Money and gold changer- Sarafis
Saz- A string instrument- Sazi
Sazan- A fish- Sazani
Semer- Saddle- Samari
Sersem- Fool- Sersemis
Soba- Stove for room heating- Soba
Sokak- Street- Sokaki
Soy- Relatives, ancestors- Soi
Simit- Ring shaped bread roll- Simiti
Siftah- First sale of the day- Seftes
Sevda- Love, sorrow- Sevdas
Siva- Construction bond- Sovas
Siktir- Get out of here!- Sihtiri
Sinik- Measure of cereals- Sniki
Somya- Bedstead (metal)- Somies
Sunger- Sponge- Sfungari
Sucuk- Sausages- Soutzouki
Sultan- Sultan- Soultan
Sumbul- Hyacinth- Zoumbouli
Susam- Sesame- Sousami
Supya- Cuttlefish- Soupia
Salvar- Loose trousers- Salvari
Samar- Slap in the face- Siamara
Samata- Noise - Samatas
Sapsal- Stupid- Sapsalis
Serbet- Sherbet- Serbeti
Serit- Stripe, chevron- Siriti
Seyran- Walk, stroll- Seriani

Takim- Set, shift of workmen- Takimi
Takoz- Wedge- Takos
Takunya- Heel of shoe, wooden shoe- Takouni
Tambur- An instrument- Tambouras
Tamah- Greed- Tamahi
Tapa- Cork, stopper- Tapa
Taraca- Terrace- Taratsa
Tarama- A seafood appetizer- Taramas
Tarhana- A soup- Trahanas
Tavan- Ceiling- Tavani
Tavla- Backgammon- Tavli
Tel- Chord, string- Teli
Temel- Foundation- Themelio
Tembel- Lazy- Tembelis
Tencere - Cooking pot- Tentzeris
Teneke- Tin- Tenekes
Tepe- Hill- Tepes
Tepsi- Baking tin- Tapsi
Tersane- Shipyard- Tarsanas
Tertip- Trick- Tertipi
Torba- Sack, bag - Ntorvas
Tombeki- Tobacco pipe- Toumbeki
Top- Ball- Topi
Turlu- A dish of mixed vegetables- Tourlou
Tursu- Pickle- Toursi
Tugla- Brick- Touvlo
Tulumba- Pump, a dessert- Touloumba
Tufek- Gun- Toufeki

Uskumru- A fish- Skumbri

Vaftiz- To baptise- Vaftisi
Varil- Barrel, cask- Vareli
Vernik- Varnish- Verniki
Veresiye- On credit - Verese

Yahni- Sort of ragout, a dish- Yahni
Yaka- Collar- Yakas
Yali- Shore, beach - Yalos
Yapi- Construction- Yapi
Yasemin- Jasmine- Yasemi
Yelek- Waist coat- Yeleki

Zar- Die, dice - Zari
Zarif- Elegant- Zarifis
Zargana- Needlefish- Zargana
Zembil- Flat straw basket- Zembili
Zevzek- Silly, superficial- Zeuzekis
Zeybek- A dance- Zeibekikos
Zifiri- Darkness- Zoferos
Zor- Force, trouble, difficulty- Zori
Zurna- A wind instrument- Zurnas
Zuluf- Lock of hair- Tsouloufi
 
Ne zove se nas Premijer Kara-man -lis nego njihov , idi u translate i gledaj jer ti daje sta od turski na srpski ili za bivsi njihov Premijer Kara-dzaferis :mrgreen: ?

I neznam zasto pise svuda da su Turski-Otrhodoxi ?
The British Quarterly Review
By Robert Vaughan, Henry Allon page 200
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Pa nisam ja te knjige napisao :mrgreen:


Nisu uzeli nista Albanci od njih nego sprotivno Mister Patrijarhu , tamo se govorilo Albanski , ni manje ni vise nego samo-do pre 1-og veka .

Turski jezik nekako slican njima ,a Mister Patrijarhu ( daj priznaj sada)
TURKISH ENGLISH GREEK





Adet Custom Adeti
Afaroz Excommunicate Aforismos
Aga Land owner Agas
Ahmak Idiot Ahmakis
Ahtapot Octopus Htapodi
Alan Area, ground Alana
Alarga Open sea, distant Alarga
Aman For mercy's sake Aman
Anadolu Anatolia (East in Greek) Anatoli
Ananas Pineapple Ananas
Anason Aniseed Anithos
Anfora Anchor Amphoreus
Angarya Forced labor Angaria
Aptal Stupid Abdalis
Apukurya Carnival Apokria
Arap Negro, bogyman Arapis
Arnavut Albanian Arnautis
Asik Someone in love Asikis
Atlet Athlete Athlitis
Avanak Gullible, stupid Avanakis
Ayran A drink Ariani

Baba - Father - Babas
Baca - Chimney - Batzias
Bacak - Leg, leg of trousers in G.- Batzaki
Bacanak - Brother in law - Batjanakis
Baglama - A string instrument - Baglamas
Bahce - Garden - Bahtses
Bahsis - Tip - Baxisi
Bakir - Copper - Bakiri
Bakkal - Grocer - Bakkalis
Baklava - Baklava - Baklavas
Balta - Ax - Baltas
Bamya - Okra - Bamia
Barbunya - A fish - Barbunia
Barut - Gunpowder - Baruti
Battaniye - Woolen Blanket - Batania
Batakci - Swindler - Bataxis
Bayrak - Flag - Bairaki
Bekar - Batchelor - Bekiaris
Bekri - Drunk - Bekris
Bela - Trouble - Belas
Benzin - Petrol, gas - Benzina
Bereket - Abundance, plenty - Bereket
Beton - Concrete - Beton
Bey - Mr. - Beis
Bezelye - Pea - Bizeli
Biber - Pepper - Piperi
Biftek - Steak - Bifteki
Bodrum - Cellar, dungeon - Boudroumi
Bomba - Bomb - Bomba
Bostan - Vegetable field, garden - Bostani
Bora - Storm - Bora
Boya - Paint - Bogia
Borek - Pastry, pie - Boureki
Bre - Hi, you - Vre
Budala - Idiot - Boudalas
Bulgur - Boiled wheat - Bligouri
But - Thigh - Bouti
Buz - Ice, very cold - Bouzi
Buzuki - Bouzouki - Bouzouki

Cacik - A drink with cucumbers- Tzatziki
Caka - Swagger, vanity - Tsaka
Cam - Window pane - Tzami
Cami - Mosque - Tzami
Cambaz - Acrobat, dealer in G.- Tzambazis
Cenabet - Crabbed person - Tzanabetis
Cep - Pocket - Tsepi
Cereme - Fine or cost of damage- Tzeremes
Cezve - Coffee Pot - Tzesves
Ciger - Liver, lungs - Tziyeri
Cimbiz - Tweezers - Tsimpida
Cuce - Dwarf - Tsutzes
Cadir - Tent - Tsiantiri
Cakirkeyif - Slightly drunk - Tsakir-kefi
Cali - Thorny plant - Tsiali
Calim - Flexibility, show off - Tsalimi
Cam - Pine tree - Tsami
Canak - Shallow bowl - Tsanaki
Canta - Handbag - Tsanta
Capacul - Untidy - Tsapatulis
Capari - Weight anchor - Tsapari
Capkin - Seducer, coquettish - Tsahpinis
Capraz - Crossed - Tsaprazi
Cardak - Hut of dried branches - Tsardaki
Carsi - Market - Charsi
Carik - Rustic shoe - Tsarouhi
Catal - Fork - Tsatala
Catra Patra - Stumbling speech - Tsatra patra
Cavus- Sergeant - Tsausis
Cay - Tea - Tsai
Celebi - Pleasant man, mentor - Tselebis
Cember - Circle - Tsemperi
Cengel - Hook - Tsingeli
Ciklet - Chewing gum - Tsikla
Ciftetelli- A dance - siftetelli
Ciftlik - Large country estate - Tsifliki
Cifit - Tight in money - Tsifoutis
Cimento - Cement - Tsimento
Cinko - Zinc - Tsingos
Ciftlik - Big farm, property - Tsifliki
Cirak - Apprentice - Tsiraki
Cipura- A fish - Tsipura
Ciroz - A fish - Tsiros
Coban - Shepherd - Tsobanis
Corap - Woolen sock- Tsurapis
Corba - soup - Tsorbas
Corek - Large bun - Tsoureki
Cotra - File fish - Tsotra

Dalavere - Trick, deceit- Dalavere
Dalga - Wave (sorrow,love in G.)- Dalka
Dantel - Lace - Ntantella
Darbuka - Drum - Ntarbuka
Davul - Drum - Ntauli
Defne - Laurel - Dafni
Defter- Notebook - Tefteri
Demet - Bouquet- Demati
Dervis - Dervish - Dervisis
Dert - Sorrow, trouble- Derti
Despot - Despot - Despotis
Diploma- Diploma- Diploma
Direk- Pole - Ntereki
Divan- Sofa - Divani
Diyakos - Deacon - Diakos
Dogru - Straight - Dogrou
Domates- Tomatoes - Ntomates
Dolap- Cupboard- Ntoulapi
Dolma - Stuffed leaves - Ntolmas
Drahoma - Dowry - Trahoma
Duvar- Wall - Ntouvari
Dumbelek - Small drum - Toumbeleki
Dumen - Rudder, steering wheel- Timoni
Dunya - World - Dounya
Duzine - Dozen - Ntouzina
Efendi - Gentleman - Afendis
Eksen - Axis - Axonas
Enginar - Artichoke - Anginara
Evlek - A measure of land - Avlakia

Firin Oven Fourno
Falcata Shoemaker's knife- Faltseta
Fanus Lantern, lampglass- Fanos
Faras Dust pan - Farasi

Farfara- Empty headed, frivolity- Farfara
Fasulye - Bean - Fasoulia
Fener - Lantern - Fanari
Ferman - Sultan's word - Firmani
Fincan- Cup - Flitzani
Findik- Walnut - Fountouki
Firca - Brush - Vourtsa
Firkete- Hairpin - Fourketa
Fidan - Plant, sapling - Fidani
Filozof- Philosopher- Filosofos
Fisek- Cartridge- Fiseki
Fistan- Woman's dress- Foustani
Fistik - Pistacchio Nuts - Fistiki
Fitil - Fuse - Fitili
Fol - Nest egg (Pros)- Folia
Fukara - Poor,Hopeless - Fukaras

Gaf - Mistake, blunder - Gafa
Gaile - Care ,Difficulty- Gaila
Galeta- Breadcrumbs- Galeta
Gargara - Gargle- Gargara
Gazoz - Fizzy water - Gazoza
Gem - Horse bridle - Gemi
Gemici - Sailor - Gemitzis
Gonder- Flag pole - Kontari
Goril- Gorilla - Gorillas
Gubre - Manure, fertilizer- Kopria
Gugum- Jug - Gumi
Gul - Rose - Yioulia
Guverte- Deck of a ship- Kouverta

Haber- News- Haberi
Hali- Carpet, rug - Hali
Halka- Ring - Halkas
Hamam- Turkish bath - Hamami
Hamal- Porter- Hamalis
Hancer- Short sword - Hatzari
Hap- Pill - Hapi
Harita- Map - Hartis
Haram- Waste, sin- Harami
Harem- Harem - Haremi
Harman- Blend - Harmani
Hatir- For somebody's sake,favor- Hatiri
Hava- Air, mood- Havas
Havyar- Caviar- Haviar
Havuz - Cistern, pool- Havuza
Hayvan- Animal, beast- Haivani
Helva- Halva, a desert - Halvas
Hendek- Ditch - Handaki
Hoca - Teacher, priest- Hotzas
Hora - Dance- Horos
Horon- Dance- Horos
Hovarda- Extravagant, womanizer- Houvardas
Huni- Funnel - Honi
Huy - Habit- Houi
Huzur- State of harmony - Houzouri

Ibrik- Pot- Briki

Ihlamur- Linden Tree- Flamouri
Imam - Muslim priest- Imamis
Imam Bayildi- A dish- Imam Baildi
Irgat- Agricultural worker - Ergatis
Iskelet- Skeleton - Skeletos
Ispanak- Spinach - Spanaki
Iskambil- Playing cards - Skambili
Iskarpin- Shoe - Skarpini
Iskandil- Sounding lead in guns- Skandali
Iskarmoz- Oar support - Skarmos
Iskarta- Defective - Skartos
Iskonto- Discount- Skonto
Ispinoz - Chaffinch - Spinos
Istampa - Stamp - Stampa
Istaka- Billiard cue - Steka
Istakoz - Lobster - Astakos
Istavrit- A fish - Stavritis
Istavroz - Cross - Stavros
Isteri - Hysteria - Ysteria
Istridye- Oyster - Stridi
Izgara- Grill - Skara

Kabadayi- Tough guy - Kabadais
Kabuk- Shell (of animals etc.)- Kabouki
Kadayif- Kadaif- Kadaifi
Kalabalik - Mass of people- Kalabaliki
Kalay- Solder ( A metal)- Kalai
Kalayci- Tinker- Kalaitzis
Kalamar- Squid - Kalamari
Kalfa- Assistant- Kalfas
Kaldirim- Sidewalk- Kalderimi
Kalem- Pen, chisel- Kalemi
Kalip - Form- Kaloupi
Kalpak- Fur Cap- Kalpaki
Kalpazan- Counterfeiter,lazy- Kalpouzanos
Kama- Short dagger- Kama
Kambur- Hunchback - Kampouris
Kamci- Whip- Kamtsiki
Kamyon- Truck - Kamioni
Kanal - Chanel, strait- Kanali
Kanepe- Sofa - Kanapes
Kantar- Balance - Kantari
Kapak- Cover--- Kapaki
Kaparo- Deposit- Kaparo
Kaplan- Tiger (Hawk in Greek)- Kaplani
Kaplama- Covering- Kaplamas
Karakol- Police office,police- Karakoli
Karagoz- Black eyed,a shadow figure- Karagoz
Karanfil - Carnation- Karafilli
Karamela- Candy- Karamella
Karavana- Meal in the army- Karavana
Kardes - Brother- Kardasis
Karga - Crow, a bird - Karga
Karides- Shrimp- Garides
Karpuz- Watermelon - Karpuzi
Karyola- Bed ('Nasty'woman in Greek)- Kariola
Karsi- Opposite- Karsi
Karsilama- A dance- Karsilamas


prvo nisi nista odgovorio na mapu :mrgreen:
i sam znas da Grci su na balkanu pre svi

gde vi zivite to pripada nama


:rotf:
pa 80% od siptara imaju turska imena i prezimena SULEYMANI,AHMETI...
- 40% od reci su vam grcki,latinski,vlaski i slovenski a i dobar deo i turski

:hahaha:te reci mogu samo turci da su uzeli od nas jel uvek vece civilizacija pusta korenja na nomade i one koje su pod njih -niza civilizacija

turci i Konstantinopol su zvali Konstantinopol do pre 200 godina pa onda poceli Istanbul da ga zovu!
isto je sa Svetu Sofiju koju su pretvorili u gjamiju
kad su okupirali Konstantinopol i videli to cudo od gradbe , jednostavno nisu imali srce da ga porushe:mrgreen:
 
Poslednja izmena:
prvo nisi nista odgovorio na mapu :mrgreen:
i sam znas da Grci su na balkanu pre svi

gde vi zivite to pripada nama


:rotf:
pa 80% od siptara imaju turska imena i prezimena

SULEYMANI
AHMETI

40% od reci su vam grcki,latinski,vlaski i slovenski a i dobar deo i turski
Vlashki jeste , a ne Turski i Grcki .
:hahaha:te reci mogu samo turci da su uzeli od nas jel uvek vece civilizacija pusta korenja na nomade i one koje su pod njih -niza civilizacija

turci i Konstantinopol su zvali Konstantinopol do pre 200 godina pa onda poceli Istanbul da ga zovu!
isto je sa Svetu Sofiju koju su pretvorili u gjamiju
kad su okupirali Konstantinopol i videli to cudo od gradbe , jednostavno nisu imali srce da ga porushe:mrgreen:

Jesam odgovorio .
Mapa kao svaka Mapa , svaki na svoje ..
Ahmet , je Muslimansko ime a ne Tursko , znaci kod Albanaca-Muslimana nisu Turska nego Islamska imena ..

Nema sta Mister P. oni i Anitka "daleko je more " nek oni sebe trazu Konstantinopol mi nemamo tamo nista .. Dakle jos jednom , jezik njihov nije Anticki , njihova kultura nije , njihova nacionalna muzika nije itd..

Grci su najmladjiji na Balkanu :mrgreen:
Garantujem .

Dokazi vezu Grka i starih Grka da vidimo ?

40% od reci su vam grcki,latinski,vlaski i slovenski a i dobar deo i turski
Vlashki jeste , a ne Turski i Grcki .
 
Poslednja izmena:
Jesam odgovorio .
Mapa kao svaka Mapa , svaki na svoje ..
Ahmet , je Muslimansko ime a ne Tursko , znaci kod Albanaca-Muslimana nisu Turska nego Islamska imena ..

Nema sta Mister P. oni i Anitka "daleko je more " nek oni sebe trazu Konstantinopol mi nemamo tamo nista .. Dakle jos jednom , jezik njihov nije Anticki , njihova kultura nije , njihova nacionalna muzika nije itd..

Grci su najmladjiji na Balkanu :mrgreen:
Garantujem .

Dokazi vezu Grka i starih Grka da vidimo ?

shipac to glediste je prihvateno po svet to je official !
Grci su ziveli u Epir i zivi dokazi su anticke tvrgjave na tih mesta !


:rotf: siptare danasnji grci mogu da citaju anticke natpise
muzika? jel ti imas jedan primer kakva je bila anticka muzika:hahaha:
Grcki melos nemoze da se nagje nigde na drugo mesto za razliku kod siptarski koji nalikuje na crnogorski:mrgreen: a vasha moderna muzika je 100% TURSKA

siptare nema sta ti da garantujes nego pogledaj sta SVET kaze za Grcima !


a evo vase tradicionalna odeche :rotf:
TUTA TURCI
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shipac to glediste je prihvateno po svet to je official !
Grci su ziveli u Epir i zivi dokazi su anticke tvrgjave na tih mesta !


:rotf: siptare danasnji grci mogu da citaju anticke natpise
muzika? jel ti imas jedan primer kakva je bila anticka muzika:hahaha:
Grcki melos nemoze da se nagje nigde na drugo mesto za razliku kod siptarski koji nalikuje na crnogorski:mrgreen: a vasha moderna muzika je 100% TURSKA

siptare nema sta ti da garantujes nego pogledaj sta SVET kaze za Grcima !


a evo vase tradicionalna odeche :rotf:
TUTA TURCI
ChildrensDayInKosovo2.JPG
Vec nervozan ?

Ja mogu procitati stare natpise , oni to nemogu :eek:


Jezik Epira :

Franciscus Blanchus godina- 1635

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Narod koji je bio tamo od iste knjige :

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Pitaj svakog Albanca dali jos danas razume taj jezik sta pise gore :mrgreen:
evo i link da bude sve ispravno : http://www.mdevaan.nl/research/Blanchus.pdf
 
Vec nervozan ?

Ja mogu procitati stare natpise , oni to nemogu :eek:


Jezik Epira :

Franciscus Blanchus godina- 1635

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Narod koji je bio tamo od iste knjige :

11givqd.png


Pitaj svakog Albanca dali jos danas razume taj jezik sta pise gore :mrgreen:
evo i link da bude sve ispravno : http://www.mdevaan.nl/research/Blanchus.pdf

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
evo jos jedan shipo koji prisvaja Aleksandar Veliki
vidi do sad neke sipskih stvorova su ga prisvajali kao demek majka mu bila od Ilirsko poreklo a Iliri bili siptari HAHAHA
bezi bre shipac vi smesnije i jadnije ste od bjrmovce -SA SAMO TO STO PRISVAJATE ALEKSANDAR DOKAZIVATE DA STE LJUBOMORNI GRCIMA KOJE IMAJU TAKVE LIKOVE U SVOJU ISTORIJU !
sta butate nos u ove stvare
ISTORIJA NIJE ZA VAS
SAMO ISPADATE JADNICI KOJI ZELE DA KRADU GRCKU ISTORIJU I SAMO MOZE TO DA VAS KOSHTA I TO MNOGO
NEMOJ I VI DA POPIJETE JEDNO VETO U EU PA DA UMRETE ZA HLEB


koristis neke francuske tekstove od vreme kad taj region bio pod turaka ?:rotf:
to su vremena kad su i naseljivani muslimanska siptarska plemena sve do Atine na legju Grckog naroda !
ali mi taj zlocin smo ispravili za 100 godina -do drugi svetski sve je bilo svreseno sa siptarske koloniste:mrgreen:
 
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stanje
Zatvorena za pisanje odgovora.

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