NATO: Protivraketni štit i u Bugarskoj

Dzimi Barka:

Bratko ce dupe da da samo da bude uz jaceg,vekovna politika

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Crni Bugarin:

Видите, у Бугарској ми не мислимо да неутралност може да реши наше проблеме. Имамо једне велике суседне државе, Турске, тако да не можемо да бранимо наше територије и интереса сами. Систем колективне безбедности решава тај проблем.

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Dzimi Barka:

Ono jes....tako ste imali kolektivnu bezbednost s Austrougarskom i kasnije s nacistickom Nemackom

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mar_comm:

Супер,
значи ми не морамо више да страхујемо од мрских нам Руских освајача ....

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Crni Bugarin:

И од иранског нуклеарног програма за балистичке ракете.

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mar_comm:

А зашто би ми требали да се нешто као плашимо Ирана ???
(осим у случају да НАТО покрене агресивна дејства према Ирану из Бондстила)

Мислиш да немају важније мете ????

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Dzimi Barka:

Bratko ce dupe da da samo da bude uz jaceg,vekovna politika

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Crni Bugarin:

Видите, у Бугарској ми не мислимо да неутралност може да реши наше проблеме. Имамо једне велике суседне државе, Турске, тако да не можемо да бранимо наше територије и интереса сами. Систем колективне безбедности решава тај проблем.

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Сталкер:

Ако имају тендецију да стану на страну јачег онда су на погрешној страни.

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Сталкер:

Од кога да се браните ? Ко вам прети ?

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Видите, у Бугарској ми не мислимо да неутралност може да реши наше проблеме. Имамо једне велике суседне државе, Турске, тако да не можемо да бранимо наше територије и интереса сами. Систем колективне безбедности решава тај проблем.

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Crni Bugarin:

Ние - колективна сигурност с Централните сили, вие - колективна сигурност с Антантата... Всеки според интересите си. Нормално и логично. Все пак да бъдем точни, Централните сили 1915-1918 и Тристранният пакт 1941-1944 не са били мирновременни системи за колективна сигурност за България, те са военновременни съюзи. Аналог на НАТО са само Варшавският договор в историята на България и Малката Антанта и Балканският пакт в историята на Сърбия/Югославия.

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Crni Bugarin:

За разлика от Сърбия през 1885 (съюз с Австрия) или 1991-1999 (съюз с Русия).

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Dzimi Barka:

To za 1885 ste dobili,i to 3 puta

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Dzimi Barka:

Samo sto mi nismo isli u Bugarsku da je okupiramo i da sprovodimo pokolje i srbizaciju nad civilnim stanovnistvom...to je bratko velika razlika...nije nam san bio da Srbija izadje na Crno More ili da bude do Sofije,dok Bugar-Morava vam je vekovni san

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Serbian policies of Macedonia were similar to those practiced in Kosovo (prohibition of Bulgarian schools and language, agrarian reform at the expense of local population, Serb colonizing), and Macedonia also had a strong emigration, which, just like the Kosovar emigration, came to play a decisive role in a neighboring state – Bulgaria, which most Macedonians considered their matrix state.

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The decisive victory of the allies in the First Balkan War was followed by a scramble over Macedonia, with Serbia and Greece allied against Bulgaria, which, though isolated, slowly edged toward hostilities that started in June 1913. The allies, joined by Romania and Turkey, quickly defeated Bulgaria. Anything but autonomous, Macedonia was partitioned by the Treaty of Bucharest (1913), whereby over half of the land went to Greece (Aegean Macedonia) and most of the remainder to Serbia (Vardar Macedonia), leaving slightly more than one-tenth to Bulgaria (Pirin Macedonia). Bulgaria also lost southern Dobrudza to Romania, but it was allowed to keep a part of Thrace, providing access to the Aegean.

The immediate effect of the partition was the anti-Bulgar campaign in areas under Serbian and Greek rule. The Serbians expelled Exarchist churchmen and teachers and closed Bulgar schools and churches (affecting the standing of as many as 641 schools and 761 churches). Thousands of Macedonians left for Bulgaria, joining a still larger stream from devastated Aegean Macedonia, where the Greeks burned Kukush, the center of Bulgar politics and culture, as well as much of Serres and Drama. Bulgarian (including the Macedonian dialects) was prohibited, and its surreptitious use, whenever detected, was ridiculed or punished.

http://promacedonia.org/en/ib/i_banac.html

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Dzimi Barka:

Samo sto mi nismo isli u Bugarsku da je okupiramo i da sprovodimo pokolje i srbizaciju nad civilnim stanovnistvom...to je bratko velika razlika...nije nam san bio da Srbija izadje na Crno More ili da bude do Sofije,dok Bugar-Morava vam je vekovni san

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Dzimi Barka:

Samo sto mi nismo isli u Bugarsku da je okupiramo i da sprovodimo pokolje i srbizaciju nad civilnim stanovnistvom...to je bratko velika razlika...nije nam san bio da Srbija izadje na Crno More ili da bude do Sofije,dok Bugar-Morava vam je vekovni san

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Dzimi Barka:

Samo sto mi nismo isli u Bugarsku da je okupiramo i da sprovodimo pokolje i srbizaciju nad civilnim stanovnistvom...to je bratko velika razlika...nije nam san bio da Srbija izadje na Crno More ili da bude do Sofije,dok Bugar-Morava vam je vekovni san

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Refugees. The Work Of The League
C. A. Macartney
League Of Nations Union, London [1931]

V. THE BULGARIAN SETTLEMENT

Between 1878 and 1912 more than 250,000 Bulgars entered Bulgaria, chiefly from Macedonia and Thrace. These were absorbed without excessive difficulty in the thinly-populated country, particularly as a number of Turks emigrated, leaving their land vacant. The situation grew serious after 1912. After the two Balkan Wars, Southern Dobruja—an almost purely 'Bulgarian region—was ceded to Roumania, while in the South, Bulgaria, victorious over the Turks, but defeated by her ex-allies, Serbia and Greece, secured only a corner of Macedonia and part of Western Thrace. As a result of these struggles, some 120,000 Bulgars entered Bulgaria from Thrace, Macedonia and the Dobruja. A small number of them were able to profit by the exodus (though on a smaller scale) of Turks and Greeks; but large numbers were still homeless when Bulgaria entered the World War in 1915. The end of this War was disastrous for Bulgaria. The loss of Southern Dobruja was sealed, after she had recovered it for a brief period in early 1918; the only result of this having been to exacerbate her relations with Roumania. In the South, she lost to Greece almost all the territory which she had gained at the expense of Turkey a few years previously. In the West, her share of Macedonia was still further reduced, and the purely Bulgarian districts of Tzaribrod, Vassilegrad, Trn and Kula were ceded to Yugoslavia for strategic reasons. Some 180,000 refugees entered Bulgaria from all these territories.

http://www.promacedonia.org/en/cm/cm_5.html

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Crni Bugarin:

Напротив. Чети:

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Crni Bugarin:

А-ха, така говорят сръбските митове. Реалността е друга. През 1945 България има по-голяма територия, отколкото през 1939.

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Crni Bugarin:

Чети още:



Сръбският мит за това, че Сърбия никога не е окупирала територии, населени с българи, няма нищо общо с реалността.

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Dzimi Barka:

Jel? A daj navedi mi gde su to Srbi palili bugarska sela,pljackali,ubijali,klali ko sto je vasa vojska radila...no ne zelim ici vise u istoriju....za mene vi niste nista bolji od ustasa,naprotiv,vas tatarski gen vas najbolje odslikava,podmukle,krvolocne,bez imalo ponosa

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Carnegie Endowment for International peace
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REPORT OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION

To Inquire into the causes and Conduct OF THE BALKAN WARS, PUBLISHED BY THE ENDOWMENT WASHINGTON, D.C. 1914

APPENDIX D

Documents Relating to Chapter II

THE SERVIANS IN THE SECOND WAR

No. 53.—EVIDENCE OF GEOGHI VARNALIEV, Headmaster of the Bulgarian School at Kavadartsi, near Tikvesh.
On July 1, when the battle of Krivolak began, he was arrested with seven other Bulgarian notables and informed by the prefect that a state of siege existed, and that they would be kept as hostages till the end of the war. They were three days in prison, but were released after the Servian defeat. The secretary of the Servian prefect did everything possible to ensure their safety. Some drunken gendarmes were, however, left behind in the Servian retreat, and these killed the servant of the mayor and wounded a woman. The Macedonian volunteers of the Bulgarian army then occupied the town and behaved well, but left on July 7. There then began a systematic burning of all the Bulgarian villages in the neighborhood. This was carried out by Turks, accompanied by Servian soldiers and officers. Among the villages burned were Negotin (800 houses), Kamendol, Gornodissal, Haskovo, etc. The peasants from these places came to their town and told their stories of massacre and pillage. On July 8, the Servians arrived in Kavadartsi and killed twenty-five Bulgarians, mostly refugees from neighboring villages, among them were the mayor and five notables of their own town. The mayor was accused of tearing up a Servian flag and helping the Macedonians. Two lads aged thirteen and fifteen, named Dorev, were killed because a bomb had exploded near their house, and they were absurdly suspected. He saw the bodies, which were all buried, still bound, just outside the town. He witnessed the pillage of about thirty shops and the burning of fifteen houses. Four women went mad from fear in their flight from Kavadartsi and two of them are said to have killed their own children, lest they should fall into the hands of the Servians.

http://www.promacedonia.org/en/carnegie/appendix_d.html

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