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    Bagram base attack kills US troops
    The Bagram base, 50km outside Kabul, is surrounded by a high mountain range and flat desert [AP]

    Two shells have struck the main US base in Afghanistan, killing two soldiers, US and Afghan officials say.

    Six more Americans were wounded, including four military personnel and two civilians, Lieutenant-Commander Christine Sidenstricker, a US military spokeswoman, said.

    The Bagram base is just 50km from the capital, Kabul.

    Kabir Ahmad, the highest Afghan government official in Bagram, said several rockets were fired at the base early on Sunday.

    A spokesman for Nato's International Security Assistance Force said that three rounds landed inside the base and one landed outside.

    The wounded personnel were taken to the main hospital in Bagram for treatment.

    Isaf said it was not known if any Afghan civilians living near the base were harmed in the attack.

    The Taliban later claimed responsibility for the shelling through Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the group.US military lost the war in Iraq and Afganistan
    President Obama is likely to announce in the coming days that he will withdraw all US combat troops from Iraq by August 2010. Many of these soldiers will end up in Afghanistan where the Taliban is getting stronger and the US-backed government weaker by the day. How much has the US learnt from its debacle in Iraq?
    One lesson not learnt in Washington is that it is a bad idea to become involved in a war in any so-called "failed state". This patronizing term suggests that if a state has failed, foreign intervention is justified and will face limited resistance. But the greatest US foreign policy disasters over the last generation have all been in places where organised government had largely collapsed.
    There was Lebanon in 1983, when 242 US marines were blown up in Beirut, Somalia 10 years later, and Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. The lesson, which applies to nowhere more than Afghanistan, is that societies with weak state structures devise lethally effective ways of defending themselves.
    I remember an Iraqi neurosurgeon, who had just successfully defended his hospital in Baghdad against looters with a Kalashnikov in 2003, saying to me: "The Americans should remember that even Saddam Hussein had difficulty ruling this country." Iraq was never like an east European autocracy. Even under Saddam every Iraqi owned a gun. Iraqis would not fight for Saddam's regime, but they would fight for their own ethnic or sectarian community or their country. An error made by the US was to imagine that just because Shia and Sunni Arabs hated each other that Iraqi nationalism was not a potent force.
    This conviction that a victory has already been won is leading American commentators to assume blandly that the US can leave behind 50,000 non-combat troops in Iraq without any Iraqi objection. This would also be contrary to the Status of Forces Agreement negotiated with enormous difficulty and after prolonged wrangling last year.
    The greatest source of error for the Americans in Iraq was not a policy mistake but an abiding belief that they alone made the political weather. Anything good or bad which happened was the result of American action. Thus if the Sunni insurgency against American forces started to come to an end in the second half of 2007 it must be because of the "surge", as the 30,000 extra US troops and more aggressive tactics on the ground were known. The real reason for the fall in violence had more to do with the Shia victory over the Sunni in an extraordinarily savage civil war, a reaction against Al-Qa'ida, and the ceasefire called by the Mehdi Army to which belonged most of the Shia death squads.
    If the US intervention in Iraq proved anything it was that the Americans never had the strength to shape the political and military environment to their own liking. Yet well-reviewed books on Iraq still appear in which Iraqis have a walk-on role and when somebody pushes a button in Washington something happens in Baghdad. These misconceptions are important because the mythology about the supposed success of the "surge" is being promoted as a recipe for victory in Afghanistan.
    This would not be the first time that false analogies between Iraq and Afghanistan have misled Washington. I was in Afghanistan during the war against the Taliban at the end of 2001 and the beginning of 2002 and one of the most striking features of the conflict was the lack of fighting. The warlords and their men, who had previously rallied to the Taliban, simply went home because they did not want to be bombed by US aircrafts and they were heavily bribed to do so. There was very little combat. Yet when I went to Washington to work in a think-tank for a few months later that year the Afghan war was being cited by the Bush administration as proof of America's military omnipotence.
    It is difficult to believe that the Obama administration is going to make as many crass errors as its predecessor. So amazed were the Iranians to see President Bush destroy their two most detested enemies in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001 and 2003 that some theologians held that such stupidity must be divinely inspired and heralded the return of the Twelfth Imam and the Shia millennium.
    The reinforced US military presence in Afghanistan risks provoking a backlash in which religion combines with nationalism to oppose foreign intervention. It is this that has been the real strength of movements like Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, the Mehdi Army in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan which the US wants to eradicate. US military expert says war in Afghanistan ”could be lost by summer”
    A leading US military expert has warned that the war against the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan will be lost by the end of the summer, if dramatic changes in counter-insurgency strategy fail to take place.
    Colonel John Nagl, an Iraq veteran who helped devise the successful strategy there under the guidance of General David Petraeus, who is now the CENTCOM commander, told The Telegraph that the gains made by the Taliban over the past two years need to be reversed by the end of the traditional fighting season in Afghanistan, around late September or early October, or else the Taliban will establish a durable base that would make a sustained Western military presence futile.
    “Counter-insurgency campaigns have momentum. Like a football game when the crowd senses something before it happens. Right now the Taliban has that momentum,” said Nagl, who co-authored the recently published US Government Counterinsurgency Guide.
    Nagl is consulting the US Government as it conducts four separate policy reviews on Afghanistan, and his warning comes amid fears that unless the insurgents” advance is halted, Afghanistan will become the new president’’s Vietnam.
    The Chairman, US Joint Chief of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen has said he expected to announce the deployment of a further 30,000 US troops soon, even though the Obama administration is waiting to evaluate the reviews.
    “The commander on the ground has asked for additional forces and meeting those requirements against the overall strategy is something that I have an expectation to get directed to do,” he said.
    The anticipation in military circles is that the president will agree not only to the extra troops but to the adoption of the approach that worked well in Iraq, whereby US forces concentrate less seeking out and killing insurgents.
    Like other military thinkers, Nagl believes that a change in military tactics also urgently needs to be accompanied by a “civilian surge”, which will clarify the roles and goals of international agencies and governments trying to steer the impoverished country’’s development.
    Nagl does not expect the “clear, hold, build” strategy to produce the same rapid results in Afghanistan as in Iraq, for Afghanistan has never been modernised, has a weaker tribal structure that was crucial in supporting the surge in Iraq and has a booming opium trade. To add to this, militants have a safe haven across the border in Pakistan.
    Like other experts and Pentagon officials, he believes the current Afghan army size of 70,000 just a quarter of the Iraqi army will need to double if not triple to establish itself as a convincing security force.

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    Cerace se oni jos godinama. Naravno, Ameri na kraju ima da ispushe, ali ce, poput Sovjeta pre njih, da iza sebe ostave milione mrtvih i zemlju osudjenu da vecno bude u qurcu.

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    Amerikanci do kraja ljeta gube rat u Afganistanu.
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    Ako neko moze da mi ukratko isprica bio bih mu zahvalan mrzi me da citam..
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    Bagram base attack kills US troops
    The Bagram base, 50km outside Kabul, is surrounded by a high mountain range and flat desert [AP]

    Two shells have struck the main US base in Afghanistan, killing two soldiers, US and Afghan officials say....
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