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    Izraelski borbeni avioni povredili su vazdusni prostor Sirije. Da se verovatno radi o provokaciji govori podatak da su tom prilikom probijali zvucni zid. Sirijske snage su otvorile vatru i primorale ih da napuste vazdusni prostor. Da li je ovo samo jos jedan bezazleni incident ili nesto vise od toga, videcemo uskoro...

    http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_6824967?nclick_check=1



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    Ma ko ih ebe.Bas sam se zabrinuo nesto za Siriju i Izrael.

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    U.S.: Syria on nuclear watch list

    Nicole Winfield / AP | September 14, 2007

    ROME - A senior U.S. nuclear official said Friday that North Koreans were in Syria and that Damascus may have had contacts with "secret suppliers" to obtain nuclear equipment.

    Andrew Semmel, acting deputy assistant secretary of state for nuclear nonproliferation policy, did not identify the suppliers, but said North Koreans were in the country and that he could not exclude that the network run by the disgraced Pakistan nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan may have been involved.

    He said it was not known if the contacts had produced any results. "Whether anything transpired remains to be seen," he said.

    Syria has never commented publicly on its nuclear program. It has a small research nuclear reactor, as do several other countries in the region, including Egypt. While Israel and the U.S. have expressed concerns in the past, Damascus has not been known to make a serious push to develop a nuclear energy or weapons program.



    In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack declined to comment on Semmel's remarks but noted that the United States had longstanding concerns about North Korea and nuclear proliferation.

    "We've also expressed, over time, our concerns about North Korea's activities in terms of dealing with A.Q. Khan and others around the globe," he told reporters.

    McCormack said he was not aware of any specific link between North Korea and Syria.

    Proliferation experts have said that Syria's weak economy would make it hard-pressed to afford nuclear technology, and that Damascus — which is believed to have some chemical weapons stocks — may have taken the position that it does not also need nuclear weapons.

    Semmel was responding to questions about an Israeli airstrike in northern Syria last week. Neither side has explained what exactly happened, but a U.S. government official confirmed that Israeli warplanes were targeting weapons from Iran and destined for Hezbollah militants in Lebanon.

    The Washington Post reported Thursday that Israel had gathered satellite imagery showing possible North Korean cooperation with Syria on a nuclear facility.

    North Korea, which has a longstanding alliance with Syria, condemned the Israeli air incursion. Israeli experts say North Korea and Iran both have been major suppliers of Syria's missile stock.

    Syrian Information Minister Mohsen Bilal told the Saudi newspaper Asharq al-Awsat on Thursday that the accusations of North Korean nuclear help were a "new American spin to cover up" for Israel.

    Semmel, who is in Italy for a meeting Saturday on the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, said Syria was certainly on the U.S. "watch list."

    "There are indicators that they do have something going on there," he said. "We do know that there are a number of foreign technicians that have been in Syria. We do know that there may have been contact between Syria and some secret suppliers for nuclear equipment. Whether anything transpired remains to be seen."

    "So good foreign policy, good national security policy, would suggest that we pay very close attention to that," he said. "We're watching very closely. Obviously, the Israelis were watching very closely."

    Asked if the suppliers could have been North Koreans, he said: "There are North Korean people there. There's no question about that. Just as there are a lot of North Koreans in Iraq and Iran."

    Asked if the so-called Khan network, which supplied nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea, could have been involved, he said he "wouldn't exclude" it.

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    Israeli Attack on Syria Could Presage Strike on Iran

    Newsmax
    Wednesday September 19, 2007

    Reports surfaced this week that Israel had launched an air attack against a site in Syria believed to be a nuclear-related facility containing material delivered by North Korea.

    The Sept. 6 air strike generated surprisingly little outcry from the rest of the world, and not as much press as might be expected.

    But it could have major implications: Some see the attack as a warning to Iran that Israel will not allow a nuclear-armed adversary in the region.

    The strike was carried out several days after a ship with North Korean cargo docked in a Syrian port, according to current and former American and Israeli officials. The cargo was transferred to the site Israel later attacked, the officials told the New York Times.

    North Korea has previously sold weapons and missile technology to Syria as well as Iran, but it has never been caught exporting nuclear-related material to either country.

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    Details about the raid remain elusive. But as the officials spoke anonymously, China abruptly canceled plans to host diplomatic discussions in Beijing on North Korea’s intentions to disband its nuclear facilities. China’s move was seen as an attempt to avoid a possible confrontation between the U.S. and North Korea over its alleged nuclear support for Syria.

    The officials disclosed that the Israeli government notified Washington about the air attack before it was launched, but it is unclear whether the U.S. supported the strike or advised against it.

    It is also unclear if the U.S. agrees with Israeli intelligence’s assessment that the targeted site was nuclear-related.

    But American and Israeli officials “who have received briefings from Israeli sources said Monday that the raid was an attempt by Israel to destroy a site that Israel believed to be associated with a rudimentary Syrian nuclear program,” the Times reported.

    North Korea strongly denied that it has provided Syria with secret nuclear cooperation, claiming on Tuesday that the charge was fabricated to block progress in the North's relations with the U.S.

    In any case, the Israeli attack is bound to send a message to Iran about its nuclear ambitions. An analysis in the Jerusalem Post indicated that Israel “will be seen in a few key capitals as the force that will not allow nuclear proliferation in the region.”

    The Post also noted “the resounding lack of condemnation – either in Europe or even in the Arab world – to Israel’s alleged attack…

    “The world, for the most part, dislikes the idea of a nuclear Middle East. Witness French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner’s recent comment that France should prepare for the possibility of war over Iran’s nuclear program.”

    Kouchner said in an interview on Sunday: “We must prepare for the worst … The worst, sir, is war."

    Iran insists it only wants to master nuclear technology to produce electricity, but it has yet to comply with United Nations demands that it halt uranium enrichment and other work that could lead to weapons production.

    Regarding Israel’s motives for the strike in Syria, the Post observed: “It’s one thing to harbor terrorists who want to destroy Israel … but it is something different entirely to get into the same nuclear bed with North Korea.”

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/190907Israeli.htm

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    Pa...nisu Izraelci odavno nikoga maltretirali...jos od prosle godine...a i Palestinci im se nesto smirili,pa ce"zabavu"verovatno potraziti u susedstvu...

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    Israel scrambles warplanes to intercept 'Syrian' birds

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    Friday, September 21, 2007

    Israeli fighter pilots scrambled warplanes on Friday after radar spotted a potential airborne enemy flying from Syria only to discover the culprits were migratory birds, army radio reported.

    Israeli radar picked up the birds over the Syrian border but officers were unable to rule them out as enemy aircraft from the screen, the radio said.

    Tensions have soared on Israel's northern border with Syria since Damascus said its air defences fired on Israeli warplanes that dropped munitions deep inside its territory in the early hours of September 6.

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    The Israeli government has maintained a total blackout on the operation, but the army radio said that military commanders were preferring not to take any risk.

    A military official quoted by the radio emphasised that false alerts are common and warplanes are frequently scrambled to head off any precaution.

    Israel and Syria are technically at war and the last round of peace negotiations collapsed in 2000, largely over the fate of the Golan Heights which Israel captured from Syria in the 1967 Middle East war and annexed in 1981.

    Hmmm, ove ptice bas znaju da naprave pometnju u ionako prenapetom regionu...

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    Israel seized North Korean nuclear material from Syria: report
    1 day ago

    LONDON (AFP) — Elite Israeli forces seized North Korean nuclear material during a raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israeli warplanes bombed it September 6, a newspaper reported Sunday.

    The Sunday Times quoted well-placed sources as saying the commandos seized the material from a compound near Dayr az-Zwar in northern Syria and that tests of it in Israel showed it was of North Korean origin.

    Israel had been surveying the site for months, according to Washington and Israeli sources quoted by the newspaper which gave no date for the commando raid or details about the material seized.

    An unidentified senior American source quoted by The Sunday Times added that the US government sought proof of nuclear-related activities before allowing the air strike by F-151 warplanes to go ahead.

    The raid by the elite Sayeret Matkal was personally directed by Ehud Barak, Israel's defence minister who once commanded the unit, the newspaper said.

    It said he had been preoccupied with the site since assuming his post on June 18.

    The White House insisted Friday that it was "clear-eyed" about North Korea as it stonewalled questions about an Israeli strike allegedly sparked by nuclear cooperation between Pyongyang and Syria.

    If true, transfers of atomic technology from the Stalinist state would cast a dark cloud over US policy towards North Korea, which US President George W. Bush, weighed down by the unpopular war in Iraq, has hailed as a success story.

    North Korea has angrily denied sharing atomic know-how with Damascus, and some news reports have suggested that Israel's target was actually tied to missile exports from the cash-strapped regime to Syria.

    White House spokeswoman Dana Perino flatly refused to confirm or deny media reports that Israel struck a nuclear site but sharply rejected suggestions that the incident showed Washington had been naive about Pyongyang's intentions.

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    Ipak nisu samo probijali zvucni zid...

    Israeli airstrike hit military site, Syria confirms

    Julian Borger
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    Tuesday October 02, 2007

    Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, yesterday claimed the target hit by an Israeli airstrike last month was a military building under construction, but denied it had anything to do with a nuclear programme.
    President Assad said he could not understand the motives for the mysterious September 6 airstrike on Syria, which the Israeli government has refused to discuss. There has been speculation, in Israel and Washington, that the target was nuclear technology from North Korea.

    "We found the building construction was related to the military but it's not used," he said, according to a BBC transcript. "It's under construction so there's no people in it, there's no army, there's nothing in it and we do not know the reason, it wasn't clear."

    Asked about the rumours of a nuclear project set up with North Korea, he replied: "We have a relation with North Korea and this is not something in secret ... We are not interested in any nuclear activity."

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    He said the targeted building site did not have "any protection, any air defence" and that after the attack "there's no radiations, no emergency plans". However, Mr Assad did not say what the building was intended for, nor was he directly asked.

    He played down, but did not exclude, the possibility of a military response. "Retaliation doesn't mean missile for missile and bomb for bomb. We have our means to retaliate, maybe politically, maybe in other ways," he said.

    President Assad also said Syria would not attend a Middle East peace conference planned by the US next month, unless it explicitly dealt with the fate of territory captured by Israel from Syria in 1967.

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    nesha t. nije na forumu
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    Citat Original postavio Titus Pogledaj poruku
    Ipak nisu samo probijali zvucni zid...
    Pa nisu, dosta im je onaj što su napravili na zemlji. Zavera je to neka gadna, znao sam ja odmah.:-D

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    Citat Original postavio José Luis Torrente Pogledaj poruku
    Ma ko ih ebe.Bas sam se zabrinuo nesto za Siriju i Izrael.
    word..

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    Citat Original postavio nesha taxista Pogledaj poruku
    Pa nisu, dosta im je onaj što su napravili na zemlji. Zavera je to neka gadna, znao sam ja odmah.:-D
    Ma kakve crne zavere, sve je transparentno kao kod Chedice gancija.

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    Već sam konstatovao na više mesta da opsesija njime prelazi svaku granicu dobrog ukusa. Na forumu se najviše pominje političar koji ima najmanje poslanika i realno gledajući veoma malu političku težinu u ovom trenutku. Pominjanje dotičnog na temi o izraelskom napadu je odlična ilustracija upravo gore pomenute pojave.

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    Pa tzv neonacisti cine daleko manju grupaciju od Chedista pa ih se mnogo spominjalo...i to prelazi granice dobrog ukusa, jer nacizam Srbiji nema nikakve korene niti ce imati, a ti i tebi slicni ste dramatizovali oko dogadjaja u NS. A Chedica mozda sad ima malu politicku tezinu, ali, za razliku od naci frikova, on je u parlamentu, na dobrom putu da postane deo vladajucih struktura nakon sledecih izbora i da cini znacajan faktor u formiranju neke nove vlade pa njegovo spominjanje i te kako ima smisla...nije nikakva opsesija, on je realan politicki subjekt...

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    Analysts Find Israel Struck a Nuclear Project Inside Syria

    DAVID E. SANGER and MARK MAZZETTI
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    Sunday October 14, 2007

    Israel’s air attack on Syria last month was directed against a site that Israeli and American intelligence analysts judged was a partly constructed nuclear reactor, apparently modeled on one North Korea has used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel, according to American and foreign officials with access to the intelligence reports.

    The description of the target addresses one of the central mysteries surrounding the Sept. 6 attack, and suggests that Israel carried out the raid to demonstrate its determination to snuff out even a nascent nuclear project in a neighboring state. The Bush administration was divided at the time about the wisdom of Israel’s strike, American officials said, and some senior policy makers still regard the attack as premature.

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    The attack on the reactor project has echoes of an Israeli raid more than a quarter century ago, in 1981, when Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq shortly before it was to have begun operating. That attack was officially condemned by the Reagan administration, though Israelis consider it among their military’s finest moments. In the weeks before the Iraq war, Bush administration officials said they believed that the attack set back Iraq’s nuclear ambitions by many years.

    By contrast, the facility that the Israelis struck in Syria appears to have been much further from completion, the American and foreign officials said. They said it would have been years before the Syrians could have used the reactor to produce the spent nuclear fuel that could, through a series of additional steps, be reprocessed into bomb-grade plutonium.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/141007Analysts.htm

    Definitivno nisu samo probijali zvucni zid...

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    paz kad sam prochito srbije...a taman se ponado da je doslo deliverance...

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    Izgleda da se Izraelci spremaju sami da napadnu Iran


    Former US Intelligence official: Israel will attack Iran


    Yitzhak Benhorin
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    Friday, December 21, 2007

    "I came back from a trip to Israel in November convinced that Israel would attack Iran," Bruce Riedel, a former career CIA official and senior adviser to three US presidents - including George W. Bush - on Middle East and South Asian issues, told Newsweek Thursday, citing conversations he had with Mossad and Israeli defense officials.

    "And that was before the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE). This makes it even more likely. Israel is not going to allow its nuclear monopoly to be threatened," the American magazine quoted Riedel as saying in an article titled, "What will Israel do?".

    Published in early December, the American NIE determined that Iran had shelved its nuclear weapons program in 2003.

    According to Newsweek, "a rising tide of opinion in Israel's intelligence and national-security circles believes that the NIE does signal American retreat-and, more profoundly, renewed Israeli isolation over what is deemed an existential threat out of Tehran."

    'Israel has gotten away with it'
    The magazine quoted Knesset Member Ephraim Sneh, a former deputy defense minister who has "warned for years that Israel would eventually have to confront Iran alone," as saying that "today we are closer to this situation than we were three weeks ago ... we have to be prepared to forestall this threat on our own."


    David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington told Newsweek that Israel was likely encouraged by the non-reaction to their September air strike on a reported Syrian nuclear facility, "which may have been a test run for Iran, or at least a warning directed at Tehran".

    "Israel has gotten away with it in a sense," Albright was quoted as saying. He suggested that any Israeli pre-emptive action might not be a "traditional strike" but could involve more "sabotage of equipment".

    Newsweek said Israel also knows that the Arab states are "terrified of an Iranian nuclear power, possibly to the point of looking the other way at another such strike".

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    "I came back from a trip to Israel in November convinced that Israel would attack Iran," Bruce Riedel, a former career CIA official and senior adviser to three US presidents - including George W. Bush - on Middle East and South Asian issues, told Newsweek Thursday, citing conversations he had with Mossad and Israeli defense officials.
    Moguce, ne bi im bilo prvi put da uzimaju 'pravdu' u svoje ruke.....vec su jednom, u slicnoj akciji pre par decenija unistili iracki reaktor.

    Najbolji nacin da postede Busha novih blamiranja, je da obave stvar sami. A njih za UN ionako zabole ...

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    Citat Original postavio Salvantis Pogledaj poruku
    Moguce, ne bi im bilo prvi put da uzimaju 'pravdu' u svoje ruke.....vec su jednom, u slicnoj akciji pre par decenija unistili iracki reaktor.

    Najbolji nacin da postede Busha novih blamiranja, je da obave stvar sami. A njih za UN ionako zabole ...
    Slazem se. Sve ce uciniti da do napada na Iran dodje, pa makar ga i "sami" napali.

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    Citat Original postavio Titus Pogledaj poruku
    Izraelski borbeni avioni povredili su vazdusni prostor Sirije. Da se verovatno radi o provokaciji govori podatak da su tom prilikom probijali zvucni zid. Sirijske snage su otvorile vatru i primorale ih da napuste vazdusni prostor. Da li je ovo samo jos jedan bezazleni incident ili nesto vise od toga, videcemo uskoro...

    http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_6824967?nclick_check=1
    Јес Сирија натерала Израел да се повуче..како да не...

    Иначе имам велике симпатије за Сирију и Либан...због положаја Хришћана..који је одбра у те две земље..али у задње време имају доста хамаса по њиви....

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    Citat Original postavio Шалом Pogledaj poruku
    Јес Сирија натерала Израел да се повуче..како да не...

    Иначе имам велике симпатије за Сирију и Либан...због положаја Хришћана..који је одбра у те две земље..али у задње време имају доста хамаса по њиви....
    Aco, kakav si ti to Jevrejin kad gajis simpatije prema Siriji?:shock: A i sto bi tebe interesovali hriscani osim ako nisi konvertit

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    Citat Original postavio Titus Pogledaj poruku
    Aco, kakav si ti to Jevrejin kad gajis simpatije prema Siriji?:shock: A i sto bi tebe interesovali hriscani osim ako nisi konvertit
    Рођен као Православац..одгајан као Православац..:-D

    Ја сам Хришћанин..(или се бар трудим да будем)

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    Sirija se sprema za moguci rat sa Izraelom kaze sirijski predsednik Asad.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975950.html

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    Jesu li Rusi u Siriji? Podmornice u lukama (Latakia, Tartus) i tehničko osoblje za S-300?
    Poslednji put ažurirao/la BubaCica : 20.04.2008. u 02:23

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