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    Sada izvinite nemam vremena da prevodi.:

    http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/4643_0_2_0_C/

    Senator John Kerry, the defeated 2004 Democratic candidate for president, was the subject of a May 28 New York Times article about how he is once again trying to rebut allegations about his military service made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. With a sympathetic media, such as that represented by the Times story, Kerry thinks he might be able to rehabilitate himself and try another presidential run. The Times endorsed Kerry for president in 2004.

    But Kerry may have some competition. On Memorial Day, another former Democratic presidential candidate, retired General Wesley Clark, tried to rewrite the history of the war in Kosovo in order to make himself into a great military hero. "Last week," he said, "I returned to Kosovo for the first time since I retired from military service. For me, this trip was very personal. In 1999, I commanded the NATO forces that stopped the genocide against ethnic Albanians by Slobodan Milosevic and his Serbian forces."

    That sounds pretty impressive-commanding the forces that stopped genocide. Too bad it's not true.

    Genocide is defined as seeking to eliminate an entire group of people. But the number of dead found in Kosovo after the war was said to be only 2,108. That was the figure given by Carla del Ponte, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, at a December 1999 press conference. But it wasn't clear they were all Kosovo Albanians. Indeed, many may have been Serbs. That's a terrible loss of life, but it's no genocide.

    That figure also didn't include the number of Serbs killed in Serbia by the NATO mission commanded by Clark and ordered by President Clinton. The mission was both illegal and unconstitutional, since Clinton never received the authorization of Congress to conduct the war.

    In his message, Clark went on to tell another whopper. Referring to the NATO campaign, he said, "This was an example of how we CAN do it right: diplomacy first, strong leadership, working with others, and using force only as a last resort. We had a plan for what to do after the operation before we began air strikes."

    Working with others? Congress was bypassed. And what was that plan? Serbia today is being dismembered, so that a Muslim state in Kosovo can be established. Clark didn't mention that most of the Albanians in Kosovo who want independence are Muslims.

    He referred his supporters to photos of his visit to Kosovo. Previously, however, Clark had posed for a photo with Hashim Thaci, leader of the terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), also known by the initials UCK. This is the group laying siege to Serbian Christian churches in Kosovo today.

    For those interested in this largely untold (by the media) story, go to the website of Bill Murray, chairman of the Religious Freedom Coalition, who visited the area in August 2004 and filed this stunning report.

    Our media are ready and eager to pounce on Bush whenever he is perceived to have made a misstatement, but a retired General and former Democratic presidential candidate tells blatant lies about Kosovo and gets away with it. In fact, he uses his participation in this illegal and unconstitutional war as a badge of honor.

    Bush, of course, will be the favorite target for some time to come. Typical is Frank Rich's forthcoming book about the Bush presidency, The Greatest Story Ever Sold: The Decline and Fall of Truth from 9/11 to Katrina.

    That will be the media theme at least until after the November congressional elections.

    Rich and his colleagues will try to make you ignore the fact that while Bush has had a policy of fighting terrorists in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, Clinton, Clark & Company had a policy of helping them gain political power through false charges of genocide.



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    Pa, ja procitah, i nigde ne pishe ko je izgubio Kosovo...........

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    Pa pazi kada se amerikanci medjusobmo raspravljaju ko je izgubio Kosovo...

    Evo komentara na clanak:

    Balkan Ping!
    1 posted on 06/15/2006 2:47:06 PM PDT by kronos77
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    To: zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; Banat; ...

    And another story .. in vane due to the fact that democrates are like small children:
    - They live in their imaginary world, denying reality..
    and have tendency to involve others in their world...


    2 posted on 06/15/2006 2:48:45 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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    This is an excellent read; I read it on another site and the full link is well worth opening.

    3 posted on 06/15/2006 2:49:32 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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    Well, I'm glad someone is speaking out on the war crimes clinton and clark committed in former Yugoslavia.

    Because the Republicans seem to have amnesia over this whole business, and 95% of the conservative commentators still seem to think that committing an aggressive war against an old ally, bombing civilian targets in Belgrade, hitting dams, power plants and hospitals in midwinter, and turning over whole countries to Muslim terrorists was a great idea.


    4 posted on 06/15/2006 2:51:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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    And Frank Rich's qualifications for passing judgment on President Bush are...what exactly? That he went to musicals for free in exchange for writing little squibs about them in the NY Times?

    5 posted on 06/15/2006 2:51:34 PM PDT by Argus
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    In 1999, I commanded the NATO forces that stopped the genocide against ethnic Albanians by Slobodan Milosevic and his Serbian forces."

    Bwahahahahahaha!!!
    6 posted on 06/15/2006 2:54:47 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." – W. S. Churchill)
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    No I bet he dont have right to critisize Bush.
    But I do.
    I have lobbyed fro 2004 elections for Bush by telling all of my Srbian-American friends in USA to vote for Bush, and most of them were Domocrates. And they did voted.
    Got nothing except USA still turning a blind eye on islamic scum on Kosovo.

    7 posted on 06/15/2006 2:56:53 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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    za 10 minuta 7 odgovora i 100 citanja clanka.

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    "Vesli klark je ratni zlocinac sto je pomagao muslimane"

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    Wesley Clark ought to connect the dots. IMHO Clark is a war criminal for helping Muslims kill Christians. The Serbs were on our side of WWII. Muslims are still killing Christians, Muslims, Hindus. That is what they do and have been doing since 400 AD. What a dope!

    8 posted on 06/15/2006 3:04:47 PM PDT by olezip
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    ".....that stopped the genocide against ethnic Albanians by Slobodan Milosevic and his Serbian forces"

    Bullsquat...

    What he DID accomplish, was to give the Islamists another foothold in Europe -- at the expense of the Christians/Jews who lived in Kosovo..

    To bad the perfumed General didn't have the balls to fight against the bastards that have made ethnic genocide their religious goal....the Islamists.

    Clark is a lying, pansy assed liar and shameless tool of the criminal and cowardly Clinton Administrations..

    a POX on his ass...

    Semper Fi
    9 posted on 06/15/2006 3:07:53 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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    Sami amerikanci kazu da je njihov general ratni zlocinac...
    Mislim sta reci...
    I to kazu Americke patriote...

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    Cesto puta verujem da oni samo biraju nakaradnu vladu, ali nama se to obija o glavu:



    "Jednoga dana, americka vlada, od samoga osnivanja, pa do danas morace odgovarati za sve nedace u svetu i da narod optuzi tu nakaradnu politiku i stavi na giljotinu one koji je zastupaju i sprovode" Professor Griff bivsi reper iz grupe Public Enemy

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    Citat Original postavio Alekasandar2
    za 10 minuta 7 odgovora i 100 citanja clanka.
    Gledamo šta da radimo.
    Razne opcije su u igri...

    A ko je čitao 100 puta ovo?

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    do sada 206 puta. Pa razni ljudi, koga je zainteresovalo. POostavis clanak, ljudi procitaju i ko hoce daje komentar.
    Americki Republikanci, nacionalisti.

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    do sada 206 puta. Pa razni ljudi, koga je zainteresovalo. POostavis clanak, ljudi procitaju i ko hoce daje komentar.
    Americki Republikanci, nacionalisti.

    Meni piše 35...
    A gde ti to vidiš?

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    Who Lost Kosovo?
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    On 06/15/2006 2:47:02 PM PDT · 14 replies · 418+ views

    aim.org ^ | Cliff Kinkade
    But Kerry may have some competition. On Memorial Day, another former Democratic presidential candidate, retired General Wesley Clark, tried to rewrite the history of the war in Kosovo in order to make himself into a great military hero. "Last week," he said, "I returned to Kosovo for the first time since I retired from military service. For me, this trip was very personal. In 1999, I commanded the NATO forces that stopped the genocide against ethnic Albanians by Slobodan Milosevic and his Serbian forces." That sounds pretty impressive-commanding the forces that stopped genocide. Too bad it's not true. Genocide is...

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/@foreign/browse

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    418 citanja.

    tako se siri istina o Srbiji, a ne vatajuci jedni druge za guse ovde...

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    418 citanja.

    tako se siri istina o Srbiji, a ne vatajuci jedni druge za guse ovde...
    Who Lost Kosovo?
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    On 06/15/2006 2:47:02 PM PDT · 14 replies · 418+ views

    Ajmeee...
    Pa prodje super ženska pored tebe pa ništa ne uradiš...

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    koja zenska?

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    Citat Original postavio Alekasandar2
    koja zenska?
    Prodje...
    Nego javi kad bude 1000
    Da proslavimo!
    :wink:

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    Pa, ja procitah, i nigde ne pishe ko je izgubio Kosovo...........
    Nema veze! Bitno je da ovo pročita i Carlica del Pontiac: uvaženi političar, NE-Srbin smatra da nije bilo genocida na Kosovu...

    Zatim, umesto pitanja: 'Ko je izgubio Kosovo', za mene je važnije: 'KO ĆE DA VRATI KOSOVO U MATICU'.....
    Sve je apsolutno u totalitarnom režimu!

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    Nema veze! Bitno je da ovo pročita i Carlica del Pontiac: uvaženi političar, NE-Srbin smatra da nije bilo genocida na Kosovu...

    Zatim, umesto pitanja: 'Ko je izgubio Kosovo', za mene je važnije: 'KO ĆE DA VRATI KOSOVO U MATICU'.....
    To j ei najvaznije, da sami amerikanci kritikuju njihove sta su ucinili.
    Inace ovaj clanak treba prvenstveno SRBI da procitaju, da shvate da su u pravu.
    Samo da sada ne ispadne da su Republikanci radikalski placenici, i americke patriote da su sile mracnog Milosevicevog SPS rezima...

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    Mada je pitanje clanka u stvari "Ko je izgubio Kosovo, srbi ratujuci protiv nas, ili mi ameri, dajci ga muslimanskim zlocincima"

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    Mada je pitanje clanka u stvari "Ko je izgubio Kosovo, srbi ratujuci protiv nas, ili mi ameri, dajci ga muslimanskim zlocincima"
    Stara fora, ovaj put tačna: Nisu Srbi ratovali protiv Amera, već su Ameri napali Srbe
    Sve je apsolutno u totalitarnom režimu!

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    Vise razumevanja za istinu ima kod Amerikanaca nego kod nekih NVO u Srbiji

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    Pitanje je bas interesantno s' obzirom da na Kosovu nikada nije bilo mira sa siptarskim ekstremistima. Prvi veliki ustanak je buknuo jos 1913, pa 1919, pa 1921, pa 1937, pa 1946, pa 1965, pa 1981, pa 1985/6, ako nesto nisam zaboravio. Kako problem nikada nije do kraja resen - zaslugu za gubitak Kosova mogu da ponesu sve vlade Srbije/Jugoslavije od 1912 do danas.

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    To j ei najvaznije, da sami amerikanci kritikuju njihove sta su ucinili.
    Inace ovaj clanak treba prvenstveno SRBI da procitaju, da shvate da su u pravu.
    Samo da sada ne ispadne da su Republikanci radikalski placenici, i americke patriote da su sile mracnog Milosevicevog SPS rezima...

    ...borci protiv teorija zavere, narodna reakcija, nazadni primitivci, velikosrbi... ops, malo sam se izleteo...

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    Vise razumevanja za istinu ima kod Amerikanaca nego kod nekih NVO u Srbiji
    U pitanju je moral.

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    Citat Original postavio roninraven
    Pitanje je bas interesantno s' obzirom da na Kosovu nikada nije bilo mira sa siptarskim ekstremistima. Prvi veliki ustanak je buknuo jos 1913, pa 1919, pa 1921, pa 1937, pa 1946, pa 1965, pa 1981, pa 1985/6, ako nesto nisam zaboravio. Kako problem nikada nije do kraja resen - zaslugu za gubitak Kosova mogu da ponesu sve vlade Srbije/Jugoslavije od 1912 do danas.
    Ispustio si 1968 i 1989. A kako se niko ne seti da pita Siprate: Ako vam je ustav iz 1974 bio dobar, zasto ste se bunuli 1981?
    Čiste ruke
    Hladna glava
    I vatreno srce

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    Oni su se borili jos i tada protiv rezima Slobodana Milosevica.

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    Nema veze! Bitno je da ovo pročita i Carlica del Pontiac: uvaženi političar, NE-Srbin smatra da nije bilo genocida na Kosovu...

    Zatim, umesto pitanja: 'Ko je izgubio Kosovo', za mene je važnije: 'KO ĆE DA VRATI KOSOVO U MATICU'.....
    Pa ne znam ko ce i dal ce da ga vrati ali sam siguran da oi koji su ga izgubili tj.SPS I SRS ga sigurno nece vratiti iak ima dementnih mozgova koji jos misle da je to moguce

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