Ponos americke vojske = PROMASAJ VEKA !
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Na veliku zalost svih amerofila opet se dokazalo koliko je Rusija tehnicki nadmocnija kada je u pitanju naoruzanje
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Ameri i stelt tehnologija hahahaha
Ja mislio da su se sakrili u rupe kada su videli snimak seljaka iz Budjanovaca kako poziraju pored njihovog F-117, a oni krenuli opet da prave novi
Ja mislio da su se sakrili u rupe kada su videli snimak seljaka iz Budjanovaca kako poziraju pored njihovog F-117, a oni krenuli opet da prave novi
..gdje je nadmocnija ???...koliko su Rusi napravi oruzja,potrosili novaca na dusu ruskog naroda koje nikad nije vidjelo svijetlo dana...???...proizvodnja oruzja je igra na koju se trosi gomila love.!!!
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Mnogo tražiš od Bljagija. 
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Ma Rusi su keva sto se tice borbenih aviona. Jedini koji im je po mom misljenju stvarno valjao to je F 15C , lep avion , al matoro to vise.
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Ja samo znam da svaki ruski komad naoruzanja je mnogo bolji od americkog, a kosta 3-4 puta manje
Sto neko rece gore - M 21 stalno zakazuje a Kalasnjikov je najbolja puska svih vremena
Ovaj ruski nevidljivi kosta 140 miliona dolara a americki je 3 puta skuplji
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Cisto da dopunim ... i dodam svoj skroman prilog temi ... 
.. A imam toga jos ... 
A posle se cudimo sto su pukli ...
www.washingtonpost.com
Army report: Military has spent $32 billion since ’95 on abandoned weapons programs
Army report: Military has spent $32 billion since ’95 on abandoned weapons programs
Reuters - In 2000, the Comanche helicopter ranked as the most important planned buy for the Army. Four years later, the program — which had consumed close to 20 years of work and nearly $6 billion — was abruptly shuttered.
The Army’s Comanche helicopter was envisioned as “the quarterback of the digital battlefield,” a technologically superior aircraft that could hide from enemies, operate at night and in bad weather, and travel farther than any other helicopter.
Gen. Richard Cody, a former vice chief of staff of the Army, called it the “most flexible, most agile” aircraft the country had ever produced.
In 2000, it ranked as the most important planned buy for the Army. Four years later, the program — which had consumed close to 20 years of work and nearly $6 billion — was abruptly shuttered.
It is one of 22 major Army weapons programs canceled since 1995, ringing up a price tag of more than $32 billion for equipment that was never built. A new study, commissioned by the Army and obtained by The Washington Post, condemns the service’s efforts as “unacceptable.”
The study is the latest indication that the Pentagon — and the defense industry, in turn — is undergoing a seismic shift in its approach to new programs. As pressures mounted in Iraq and Afghanistan, the military retreated from its ambitions for multibillion-dollar, technologically superior systems. Instead, it was forced to make better use of tried-and-true equipment.
For almost a decade, the Defense Department saw its budgets boom but didn’t make the kind of technological strides that seemed possible.
“Since 9/11, a near doubling of the Pentagon’s modernization accounts — more than $700 billion over 10 years in new spending on procurement, research and development — has resulted in relatively modest gains in actual military capability,” Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said in an address last week.
That outcome, he said, is both “vexing and disturbing.”
Gone are the days of “no-questions-asked funding requests,” he said. The Defense Department must make do with less. It is focusing on fixing up older equipment and taking a more measured approach to weapon development.
The shifting strategies and a shrinking defense budget have triggered the biggest restructuring in the defense industry since the end of the Cold War. Contractors big and small have been rethinking their portfolios and buying and selling accordingly. Northrop Grumman, for instance, spun off its shipbuilding unit. And Robert J. Stevens, chief executive of Lockheed Martin, said last week that the company’s workforce, which has shrunk by 20,000 since 2009, “may well continue to decline.”
While the defense industry has always had an unusual business model in which it’s hard to predict future needs, officials say an uncertain trade has become all the more so.
“We can invest and make a great product and set a good price point, but demand is completely out of our control,” said Linda Hudson, who heads BAE Systems’ Arlington-based U.S. operations.
In recent years, the Pentagon has killed off some of its most heralded — and most pricey — weapons programs, and many of those that remain are not certain to move forward. In some ways, this represents a market correction — and a realization that the Defense Department has to live within its means and buy weapons it can afford.
.. A imam toga jos ... A posle se cudimo sto su pukli ...
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Army report: Military has spent $32 billion since ’95 on abandoned weapons programs
Army report: Military has spent $32 billion since ’95 on abandoned weapons programs
Reuters - In 2000, the Comanche helicopter ranked as the most important planned buy for the Army. Four years later, the program — which had consumed close to 20 years of work and nearly $6 billion — was abruptly shuttered.
The Army’s Comanche helicopter was envisioned as “the quarterback of the digital battlefield,” a technologically superior aircraft that could hide from enemies, operate at night and in bad weather, and travel farther than any other helicopter.
Gen. Richard Cody, a former vice chief of staff of the Army, called it the “most flexible, most agile” aircraft the country had ever produced.
In 2000, it ranked as the most important planned buy for the Army. Four years later, the program — which had consumed close to 20 years of work and nearly $6 billion — was abruptly shuttered.
It is one of 22 major Army weapons programs canceled since 1995, ringing up a price tag of more than $32 billion for equipment that was never built. A new study, commissioned by the Army and obtained by The Washington Post, condemns the service’s efforts as “unacceptable.”
The study is the latest indication that the Pentagon — and the defense industry, in turn — is undergoing a seismic shift in its approach to new programs. As pressures mounted in Iraq and Afghanistan, the military retreated from its ambitions for multibillion-dollar, technologically superior systems. Instead, it was forced to make better use of tried-and-true equipment.
For almost a decade, the Defense Department saw its budgets boom but didn’t make the kind of technological strides that seemed possible.
“Since 9/11, a near doubling of the Pentagon’s modernization accounts — more than $700 billion over 10 years in new spending on procurement, research and development — has resulted in relatively modest gains in actual military capability,” Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said in an address last week.
That outcome, he said, is both “vexing and disturbing.”
Gone are the days of “no-questions-asked funding requests,” he said. The Defense Department must make do with less. It is focusing on fixing up older equipment and taking a more measured approach to weapon development.
The shifting strategies and a shrinking defense budget have triggered the biggest restructuring in the defense industry since the end of the Cold War. Contractors big and small have been rethinking their portfolios and buying and selling accordingly. Northrop Grumman, for instance, spun off its shipbuilding unit. And Robert J. Stevens, chief executive of Lockheed Martin, said last week that the company’s workforce, which has shrunk by 20,000 since 2009, “may well continue to decline.”
While the defense industry has always had an unusual business model in which it’s hard to predict future needs, officials say an uncertain trade has become all the more so.
“We can invest and make a great product and set a good price point, but demand is completely out of our control,” said Linda Hudson, who heads BAE Systems’ Arlington-based U.S. operations.
In recent years, the Pentagon has killed off some of its most heralded — and most pricey — weapons programs, and many of those that remain are not certain to move forward. In some ways, this represents a market correction — and a realization that the Defense Department has to live within its means and buy weapons it can afford.
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U vazduhoplovstvu , i u raketnoj tehnologiji, i u sistemmima zemlja -vazduh "Patriot ne moze ni da pri***di S-300 to su cinjenice , imas bas americke izvestaje koliko je "Patriot" bio neefikasan u zalivskom ratu, proguglaj pa se uveri sam,za ostalo su nagadjanja, mozemo samo da se lazemo.
Ali to sad nije tema.
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A šta reći za Apače koji sami padaju. Ne zna se već koliko. 
Glupi kauboji. 
Glupi kauboji. 
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ruski avioni su zakon, da se ne lažemo...
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Nije samo vazduhoplovstvo i rakete, Rusi su uvek bili keva i za tenkove a evo malo i poredjenja najboljih helikoptera 2 zemlje
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Raptore,pozdrav iz Buđanovaca.
Код куповине оружја важи правило:
Ако хоћеш много и јефтино а лоше - купи кинеско
Ако хоћеш скупо а добро - купи немачко
Ако хоћеш супердизајнирано, климатизовено, фенси а прескупо и лоше - купи америчко
Ако стварно хоћеш да ратујеш - купи руско
Ако хоћеш много и јефтино а лоше - купи кинеско
Ако хоћеш скупо а добро - купи немачко
Ако хоћеш супердизајнирано, климатизовено, фенси а прескупо и лоше - купи америчко
Ако стварно хоћеш да ратујеш - купи руско
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nema price dobar je jos kad bi ga upotrebili da vidimo koliko je dobar,npr kosovo za pocetak
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A šta reći za Apače koji sami padaju. Ne zna se već koliko.
pao i je ijedan na kosarama albansko srpskoj granici,a oborio ga je jedan vrhunski strelac gadjavsi radi ne otkrivanja polozaja,,,,
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Amerikanci još jedino mogu donekle da se nose sa Rusima u artiljerijskom naoružanju i to samo zahvaljujući Paladinu koji polako i sigurno zastareva.
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Koliko god da su Rusi potrosili na naoruzanje, potrosili su mnogo, mnogo manje nego Amerikanci! A da su potrosili koliko i Amerikanci ovih vise ne bi ni bilo na planeti zemlji i ono malo prezivelih indijanaca bi opet dobilo zemlju svojih predaka!
F-22 je besmisleno trosenje novca. Za mnogo manje novca su mogli naruciti od boeinga F-15SE i zavrsiti posao za narednih 10-15 godina. F-15 je stabilna platforma koja se redovno nadogradjuje, definitivno jedan od najboljih lovaca, a multirole verzija moze da ponese naoruzanja koliko i omanji bombarder.
Da covek ne poveruje: neustrasivi USAF piloti se plase da sednu u F-22, i jos smeju da to javno kazu.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fight...r-jet-concerns/story?id=16294011#.T6lU5VLa_oM
Tu je i prevod na srpski, doduse automatski ali bolje ista nego nista.
http://translate.google.rs/translat...Raptor+Jets&hl=sr&biw=1120&bih=647&prmd=imvns
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fight...r-jet-concerns/story?id=16294011#.T6lU5VLa_oM
Tu je i prevod na srpski, doduse automatski ali bolje ista nego nista.
http://translate.google.rs/translat...Raptor+Jets&hl=sr&biw=1120&bih=647&prmd=imvns
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Postoje dva prototipa.
Stim, što avion ima ozbilnih grešaka u konstrukciji, pre svega loptaice motora su extra uočljive, iz svih pravaca, što avionu onemogućava bilo kakave stelt karakteristike. Motor, ozbiljni problemi, Rusi planiraju da otkažu dalja ispitivanja i krenu sa projektovanjem novog. Znači, bukvalno, da se vrate za stoi.
Sada ti meni objasni kako je bolji???
Molim te.
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Ti očigleno slabo poznaješ vojnu tehniku i znaš samo šta ti je deda pričao pred spavanje.
Ni jedan od ova dva helikoptera Ka 50 i 52 nisu ušla u serisku proizvodnju, a već 15 godina se ispituju i stopirano bilo kakvo dalje ispitivaje i ulaganje. Jer je MI 28H izabran za jurišni helikopter
Šta ćemo sad??
Apač je dokazana borbena mašina. Prvi pustinjski rat, je dokaz za to.
A gluposti koje se piši, su priče za malu decu, jer svaki helikopter može da se obori, pogotvo u blizini aerodroma ili pri preletu naseljenog područja.
Da, dokazao je kako ume da se efikasno raspadne pri udaru i ostavi clanove posade u zivotu. I to je za respekt 
Salu i ociglednu gresku kurcevitog pilota na stranu, apache je odlican helikopter.
Sto se tice rusa, Mi 28 je nazalost izabran za jurisni helikopter, a u ruskoj vojsci je ostalo 25-35 Ka-50 i 52 sto je sasvim dovoljno. Helikopter je i ovako glineni golub za moderno bojno polje, ali ima svoju svrhu za specijalne zadatke.
Salu i ociglednu gresku kurcevitog pilota na stranu, apache je odlican helikopter.
Sto se tice rusa, Mi 28 je nazalost izabran za jurisni helikopter, a u ruskoj vojsci je ostalo 25-35 Ka-50 i 52 sto je sasvim dovoljno. Helikopter je i ovako glineni golub za moderno bojno polje, ali ima svoju svrhu za specijalne zadatke.
Eto, Raptor ne valja...glupi Amerikanci su opet zahebali stvar...
I sada će morati na brzu brzinu da proizvedu i u naoružanje uvedu jedno 3-4.000 novih F-35-ica, da bi mogli da pariraju rastućoj vojnoj moći Rusije i Kine...koje zajedno nemaju još ni jedan serijski stelt lovac...
Još uvek pali već više puta viđena priča...ista je bila kada se pojavio Abrams, kada je počeo razvoj sadašnjeg F-22, jer pobogu, SU-27 i Mig 29 su toliko superiorni nad F15 i F16, da se mora uložiti u potpuno nove tehnologijekako bi se stekla prednost...
Vojno- industrijski kompleks započne priču, Pentagon je podgreje i naduva, pare iz budžeta idu, deficit raste, dolari se štampaju, a veliki magnati iz senke trljaju ruke...
I sada će morati na brzu brzinu da proizvedu i u naoružanje uvedu jedno 3-4.000 novih F-35-ica, da bi mogli da pariraju rastućoj vojnoj moći Rusije i Kine...koje zajedno nemaju još ni jedan serijski stelt lovac...
Još uvek pali već više puta viđena priča...ista je bila kada se pojavio Abrams, kada je počeo razvoj sadašnjeg F-22, jer pobogu, SU-27 i Mig 29 su toliko superiorni nad F15 i F16, da se mora uložiti u potpuno nove tehnologijekako bi se stekla prednost...
Vojno- industrijski kompleks započne priču, Pentagon je podgreje i naduva, pare iz budžeta idu, deficit raste, dolari se štampaju, a veliki magnati iz senke trljaju ruke...
