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Malo sam pratio desavanja, a vezano za nove informacije o tome sta Microsoft trenutno radi i na kojim produktima se trenutno najvishe zadrzava nebili ispunio svoj obecani rok. Dakle, u pitanju je nova verzija Windows viste (beta-naravno), stoga sto je ovaj put radjeno nekoliko izmena, samime time Microsoft je postavio na svome download sajtu dve verzije. Radi se o beta verzijama za 32 i 64 bitne procesore. Pun naziv: Windows Vista RC1. Microsoft obavestava svoje korisnike, da je ovo trenutno kao i ostale do sada samo jos jedna beta verzija sa poboljsanjima koje nudi, dakle nemojte se zalecati preterano.

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Mozete krenuti sa skidanjem Windows Viste RC1 na zadatom linku: Windows Vista RC1

Ako gore napomenuti link pravi problem probajte: Ovde.

Default link: Ovde.

Malo opsirnije: Ovde.

Konfiguracija koju Microsoft preporuchuje: Ovde.

Ja sam skinuo 32 bitnu veriziju i krecem polako sa 64-bitnom.
Krenite polako sa skidanjem, jer Microsoft je kao i prosli put nagovestio da postoji vremenski period za skidanje ovog system-a.
Neka ovde bude mesto za sva informisanja a vezano za buduci Windows to jest Vistu.

 
Evo, uspesno sam podigao Vistu i konektovao se na internet.
Trial verzija, koja traje 14 dana. Posle toga potrebno je otici na njihov oficijalni sajt i registrovati vash operativni sistem. Pretpostavljam da je to dovoljno nebili nastavili da koristite ovaj OS u buducnosti bez ikakvih problema plaseci se da se ne zakljucha. Za sada toliko od mene sto se tiche registracije. Dakle samo registrujte na njihovom sajtu i to je to.

Za sada se sasvim lepo ponasha.
Po pitanju prostora na vashem hard disku, potrebno je 10 gigabajta nebili instalirali ovaj sistem. Tachnije (9,44 GB). Sto se tiche samoga interfejsa, mogu samo da kazem da izgleda jezivo dobro. Dakle nepostoji objasnjenje, dok sami neprobate ovu verziju. Jako dosta su vodili rachuna o sigurnosti. Postoji jako dosta opcija vezanih za podesavanje korisnichkih naloga, a i ujedno sve je dobro sortirano prilikom pretrage onoga sto vam je potrebno. Media Player 11 i IE 7 se automatski dodaju. Sami drajveri za vash hardware se automatski takodje instaliraju.

Jos jednom, nemam rechi, zaista su se potrudili da olaksaju koriscenje samoga Windows-a, interfejs je vrh. Morate probati da bi osetili razliku od Xperience-a. Mogu vam reci iz moga iskustva, primetio sam da ukoliko instalirate EI 7 i Windows Media Player 11 na Windows Xperience-u, dosta se kochi dok na Visti sasvim lepo radi.

Evo vam par slichica na brzaka kako to otprilike izgleda u ovoj verziji:

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Ja cu to sranje sareno da instaliram tek za godinu dana.
Moj kolega voli da kaze:"Sto sareno bilo to budali milo". XP je jedan sasvim dobar OS i nemam nameru skorije da ga menjam, makar ne dok se za Vistu ne pojavi polovina dosada objavljenih zakrpa za Xp... nista ja njima ne verujem.
A da su ga opeglali, opeglali su ga... Prvi put sam se susreo sa (mislim) Beta1 verziom jos pre godinu dana, i to je tako odvratno lose radilo na sasvim pristojnoj konfiguraciji... da mi se nista nije dopalo...
Eto... samo subjektivno misljenje...
 
Da, naravno. Sam po sebi je jos u razvijanju, mislim da ce svima nama dobro doci ako smo u igri (stalno) zar ne kolega. :D

Inache koliko sam konstatovao, automatski je krenuo da skida zakrpe (otprilike) 7 megabajta, i sada nastavlja nove da skida i instalira. Ono sto je mene (previshe) iskreno, vuklo, jeste to kako je organizovano, (konkretno) sigurnost. I mogu vam reci da je sasvim pristojno podeseno, svaki fajl koji treba da se izvrsi nece proci bez vasheg odobrenja. Windows Firewall je dosta napredniji od ranije verzije, Security Centar nudi dosta opcija za sama setovanja upadate-a, i kontrole vasheg antivirusa ujedno i firewall-a.
 
Apropo da se i ja nadovežem , danas sam pročitao u novinama "Magyar Szo" koji kupujem jednom nedeljno zbog TV programa, i baš uvek u tom listu je cela jedna stranica posvećena novitetima iz informatike. Elem da ne dužim dalje današnje izdanje se bavilo sa nekim novim Seagetovim hard diskom , pa Internet Eksplorerom 7 , sa Mozzila Firefox 2.0 i Windows Vistom. Priču o Visti sam pročitao onako ovlaš , kolumnista se mnogo više bavio legalnošću Viste , nego njenim karakteristikama . On je naime objavio da će instalacioni disk Windows Viste podržavati samo 1-u (čitajte jednu ) instalaciju ovog operacionog sistema sa 1 (jednog) diska na 1 (jedan) računar , svaku drugu instalaciju na drugi računar ili na čak isti računar posle formatiranja hard diska smatraće nelegalnom i prekinuće je . Tako da će se za svaku novu instalaciju morati kupiti nov disk sa novim aktivacionim kodom i još je kolumnista naglasio daće ovo doprineti daljem padu popularnosti Microsofta koja je iovako već srozana i javno je postavio pitanje koliko će još korisnika Microsoft ovakvim ponašanjem oterati od sebe. :(
 
Instalirao sam chistu instalaciju na praznome hard disku. Dakle formatiran hard disk i na njemu Windows Vista. Odlichno su uradili kreiranje, formatiranje, brisanje i dodatne alatke prilikom instalacije system-a. Napomena: nepostoji mogucnost instaliranja system-a, na particiji koja je FAT, vodite rachuna, samo NTFS je dozvoljen ukoliko zelite da nastavite sa instalacijom. Sama instalacija system-a se odvija iz 2 koraka. Potrebno je da unesete serial number, mesto gde zivite, vremensku zonu i to je to. Posle toga, dovoljno je da odete da popijete kaficu, sok, ispusite par cigareta (sta vec...) i vratite se da na kraju izaberete vash user name i password za vash account (sto nije toliko bitno). I to vam je to. Plug and Play podrska odlichno radi, ako povezujete kamerice, Flash-usb, i ostalo...

Nazalost, nemogu dosta da ti pomognem oko konekcije (same). Ono sto sam uspeo da uradim jeste da isprobam dial up i mrezu. A, inache drugachije pristupam na internet, preko lan-a. Mislim da ces morati sam da isprobash. U mreznom okruzenju Vista radi sasvim odlichno bez ikakvih problema (za sada), Sama komunikacija i sporazumevanje sa XP-om u mrezi i menjanjem datoteka funkcionishe dobro bez bilo kakvih upozorenja, obaveshtenja i ostaloga.

E sada, sto se tiche registracije: Malo me je (iskreno) nerviralo, a i razmisljao sam (sta ce stvarno biti kada istekne ta registracija). Znachi, poenta je u tome da je potrebno 14 dana da prijavite vash operativni system, Microsoft-u, sto sam i uradio. posle toga dobijate poruku da je Windows aktiviran i nista od upozorenja nema dalje. Pretpostavljam, da nebi trebalo da pravi probleme. Dakle registrujte system na internetu i skida se (upozorenje od 14 dana) u protivnom se Windows zakljuchava.

Evo kako izgleda nakon registracije:
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Naisha sam na par informacija vezanih za Hardware ovo ce vam dobro doci da se informisete bolje sta je podrzano za ovu vrstu system-a:

WINDOWS UPDATE REGISTRY HACK: Hardware drivers can be updated and installed from Windows Update, but many of them are hidden. By using the next registry hack, you can gain availability to hidden device drivers for many device (including Windows Mobile Device Center): In Regedit, add the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WHOS", and recheck for updates in Windows Update. You will now see the hidden driver updates, however, note that these are BETA drivers and are not supported by neither MS nor hardware vendors!
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Motherboards

Fully Vista Compliant motherboards (all drivers installed and working)

ABIT

* NF7-S v2.0 (sil3112r not included on dvd, raid boot rom must be enabled in bios/ Other drivers loaded post install via update)
* KV8 pro (Vista RC1 64 bits)

ASUS

* A7N8X v2
* A7N8X-E Deluxe (with additional updates from Microsoft Post installation)(32-bit)
* K8V (32 bit)
* A8V Deluxe (32 bit)
* P4P800 Deluxe (32 bit)
* P5WD2
* P5WD2-Premium
* A8N-SLI Deluxe (Vista RC1 64 bits)
* A8N-SLI Premium (Vista RC1 64 bits)
* P5ND2-SLI Deluxe (Vista RC1 64 bits)
* P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe (32 bit)
* Crosshair (32 bit)

DFI

* LanParty UT nF3 250Gb (32 bit & 64 bit)
* nF4 Infinity (32 bit & 64 bit)

ECS (see also Elitegroup below)

* N2U400-A nForce2 (32 bit)
* RS480-M

GIGABYTE

* GA-965P-DQ6 (32 bit)
* GA-945GM-S2 (32 bit) (64bit) both smooth install on triple boot with W2K
* GA-8I945PLGE-RH (32bit) Vista installs it's own drivers
* GA-8IPE1000 (32-bit) Vista has all it's own drivers and even the Realtek Audio Program
* GA-M59SLI-S5 (32 bit & 64 Bit) Vista installs it's own drivers
* GA-K8N ULTRA-SLI (32 bit) Vista installs it's own drivers
* GA-K8N51GMF-9 (32 bit & 64 bits) Vista installs it's own drivers through Windows Update
* GA-K8N51GMF-9-RH (32 bit & 64 bits) Vista installs it's own drivers through Windows Update
* GA-7N400 Pro2(Rev 2.x) (32-Bit) Vista installs all drivers incl. Network, Realtek and Nvidia

Intel

* D955XBK (32 and 64-bit)

MSI

* MSI 945 PL Neo F (64bit)

Shuttle

* FN41U

Elitegroup

* RS480
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Graphic Cards

* AGP:
o ATI Radeon 9600XT (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o ATI Radeon 9700 (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit) (Windows Experience Index: Graphics 4.0/Gaming 3.8)
o ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o BFG 7600 GS OC 512mb (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically)
o Nvidia GeForce FX 5700 (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Nvidia GeForce FX 5900XT (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Nvidia Geforce 6600GT (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit & 64 bit)
o Nvidia Geforce 6800 (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit & 64 bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6200 (64bit mem) (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o XFX Geforce 6800XT (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Gainward Geforce 7600 GS+ (512MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Palit GeForce 7600GS (256MB) (Aero glass enabled) (32 bit) Windows Experience Index: Graphics 4.6/Gaming 4.8

* PCI-Express:
o ATI Radeon x300 (128MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit & 64 bit)
o ATI Radeon x600 (256MB)
o ATI Radeon x800 GTO (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o ATI Radeon x850 XT (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
o ATI Radeon x1800 XT (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (64 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6600 (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6600GT (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6700GT (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6800 (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6800GS (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6800GT (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 7300GS (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 7400 (128 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit) (turbocache not working correctly, system only shows physical memory amount)
o Nvidia GeForce 7600GT (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) 32 Bit & 64 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 7600GS (512MB) Asus (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX (256MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 7900GT (512MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit & 64 Bits)


* PCI:
o NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 (256 MB) (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically) (32 Bit)

* Onboard:
o Intel GMA950 (Aero Glass Enabled Automatically with 1GB+ System Memory) (32 Bit)
o Nvidia GeForce 6100 (Aero Glass Enabled with default drivers, disabled when beta ForceWare drivers are installed) (32 bit)

IDE/S-ATA/RAID-Controllers

* Nvidia Nforce4 AMD SATA RAID 0 (as an upgrade no clean install yet, 32 bit).
* ST3160023AS ATA HD
* 3ware 7000/8000 ide/sata (32bit) (upgrade and clean install with xp drivers 7.7.1)
* Silicon Image SiI 3512 SATALink Controller (32 bit) (FMI - CompUSA Brand with drivers from installation CD)
* Silicon Image SiI 0680 Ultra-133 Medley ATA Raid Controller (32-bit)
* ITE IT8212F ATA133 RAID Controller (32 bit) (v1.7.2.7 included with Vista RC1)
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Imaging Devices

* Creative WebCam Pro PD1030 (32-bit)
o Recognizes as "Dual Mode USB Camera Plus"
* Creative WebCam Live! (32-bit)
* Creative Live!Cam Voice (32-bit)
o Driver Update 1.2.8.710 requires manual task kill of all applications that are using the driver and manual uninstall of the old drivers in device manager to work
* Intel(r) PC Camera CS331 (32-bit)
* Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX (32-Bit) [Works either by installing XP driver or by using Windows Update Reg-Hack]
* Hercules Webcam Deluxe (32-bit)

Input Devices

NOTICE: full functionality on many input devices will not be available until Vista drivers are released. For example, any keys that require the Logitech Setpoint software to function are unusable but these are rarely needed anyway.

Keyboard

* Apple ProKeyboard USB (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard (32-bit)
* Bloomberg Biometric Keyboard (32-bit)

Mouse

* Apple Supermouse Optical USB (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Logitech MX Duo (MX700 Mouse) (32 bit)
* Logitech MX518 Gaming Grade Mouse
* Logitech MX610 Laser Cordless Mouse (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse (32 Bit)
* Logitech G7 Wireless Mouse (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical
* Microsoft Optical Mouse
* Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 (32-bit)
* ALPS Touch Pad on Dell Laptop (Non Configurable using Windows Driver. Alps does not have a Vista driver yet) (32-bit)

Joystick

Tablet

Sound Cards

EGOSYS - ESI PRO

* Wamirack 192 L/X (MME/WDM/ASIO compatible only with 5.01 drivers - No WRT Drivers) (Only 32 Bit)
* Waveterminal 192 X/L/M (MME/WDM/ASIO compatible only with 5.01 drivers - No WRT Drivers) (Only 32 Bit)
* Juli@ (MME/WDM/ASIO compatible with newest driver) (Only 32 Bit)

NVIDIA

* NVIDIA nForce MCP Audio Processing Unit (nForce2 Integrated Audio) (32 Bit)
* NVIDIA nForce MCP Audio Processing Unit (nForce430/6100 Integrated Audio) (32 Bit)

RealTek

* Realtek High Definition Audio - ALC260, ALC262, ALC861, ALC880, ALC882, ALC883
* RealTek ALC850 AC'97 Audio Controller (Both RealTek and Microsoft bundeled Vista drivers work.) (32 Bit)
* SoundMax Intergrated Digital Audio (32 Bit)

Creative

* Creative Audigy 2 (Use Beta Vista drivers from Creative site) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Creative Audigy SE (Use Beta Vista drivers from Creative site) (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic (Use Beta Vista drivers from Creative site) (32 Bit)

Echo

* Echo Indigo IO (Use latest drivers from Echo site)

C-Media

* C-Media CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device (32-bit)

Intel

* Intel onboard Sigmatel HD Audio (32 and 64-bit)

Terratec

* DMX6Fire LT (32-bit)
o Manual driver install through WinXP inf file


TV Cards

Hauppauge

* Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 PCI (32 Bit)
* Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 PCI (32 Bit)
* Hauppauge WinTV PVR-550 PCI (32 Bit)
* Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1100 PCI (works with Vista Media Center using Hauppauge's vista driver) (32 Bit)

Leadtek

* Leadtek TV2000 XP RM (32 Bit)

Terratec

* Terratec Cinergy 400 (Works under x32 and x64, but deinterlacing is disabled. Also there are problems with audio input, author only managed to get it working by 'Audio preview' option.)

Nebula

* Nebula DigiTV Half Height Master PCI card version (Works only with BDA drivers) (32 Bit)


External Storage

* 5.25" FireWire & USB 2.0 Aluminum External Enclosure FMI - CompUSA Brand with Seagate Barracuda ST-3200822A 200GB Drive. USB interface connected. (32 bit)

* 3.5" Firewire & USB 2.0 Aluminum External Enclosure AMC HD6-U2FW. Firewire interface connected. (64 bit)

Audio Devices: NOT SOUND CARDS

* Altec Lansing AHS302i Stereo/Micrphone Headset w/ USB Adaptor (Native 64-Bit: Sounds better w/ USB Adaptor)
* Creative Zen Micro (5GB) - Installed JB3 driver from CD

PCI Modems

* HSP56 Micro Modem (32bit) (supported via post install update)
* Intel 537EP (32 bit) (BestData Brand)
* In-Build CX11252 modem (32-bit)
* Motorola SM56 Modem (32 bit)

USB Modems

* T.B.D.

USB Devices

* HERCULES DJ CONTROL MP3 : ok work with vista 32bits
* Kworld 310u usb dual tuner will install original drivers fine but Hypermedia need to be run as XPSP2 compatability. mce picks up the hd tuner and works good
* Memorex Traveldrive 2C 1Gig USB flash drive works fine, but not Readyboost capable

Network Cards

* Belkin 802.11g Wireless Desktop Network Card (F5D7000 v3) (32 bit)
* Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigibit Controller (32 Bit)
* Broadcom bcm43xx Wireless (32 bits & 64 bits)
* D-Link DWL-G520 AirPlusXtremeG PCI (detects as Atheros Wireless Network Adapter) (32 Bit)
* Gigabyte Super G PCI Adapter (GN-WP01GT) (64 bit) : works with XP64 driver
* Intel PRO/1000 PM Network connection (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter (WMP54G) (32 Bit & 64 bit)
* Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (32 Bit & 64 Bit)
* Nvidia nForce Networking Controller (nForce2 onboard NIC) (32 Bit)
* NetGear 108 MBPS Wireless PCI Adapter (WG311T) (32 Bit)
* NetGear 108 MBPS Wireless PCI Adapter (WG311T) (64 Bit) : Get Atheros AR5002G Wireless
* Netgear 54 MBPS Wireless USB Adapter (WG111v2) (32-bit) : works with XP driver
* Realtek 8111B/8168 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (32 bit)
* Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) (32-Bit) : Installed with Vista

Printer / Scanner

Canon

* Pixma IP4200 (32-bit)
* Pixma ip4000 (64-bit)
* Pixma ip3000 (64-bit)

Epson

* Epson R340 Photo printer (32 and 64 bit)
* Epson PictureMate Express (32 and 64 bit)
* Epson Precision 3170 Photo scanner (32 bit) included sw does not install, but can use latest TWAIN driver from Epson website and built in Windows Fax and Scan app.
* Epson R300 Photo printer (32 bit)

HP

* HP Deskjet 6940 (via Network, auto driver) (32 bit)
* HP DeskJet 845c (32 bit)
* HP Laserjet 5L (32 bit)
* HP Laserjet 4plus (32 bit)(64 bit) with HP Jet Direct as LPR on Standard TCPIP Port
* HP LaserJet 1012 (32 and 64 bit)
* hp color LaserJet 2550L (32 bit)
* HP Officejet 4200 (32 bit)
* HP PSC 1401 All-In-One Printer (32 bit)

Other

* Lexmark 240N (Native Driver x64).
* Microtek Scanmaker 3600 (32 bit)
* Samsung ML-2010 monochrome laser printer (32 bit)
* Epson R220 (32 bit)
* Brother MFC-5440CN (USB connection). Vista recognized all modes, did not try Brother CD (64 bit)
* Brother HL 1030 works after adding a printer manualy and installing as a brother 1430 (32 bit)
* Dell Photo AIO Printer 964 (32 bit)
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Na ovome linku opsirnije mozete da pregledate hardware-ske karakteristike, ujedno i dodatne linkove za skidanje driver-a:
http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_RC_1_Hardware_Compatibility_List
 
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